Author Topic: John Salza leaves SSPX and returns to Novus Ordo (Read 33943 times)

Mark 79 · « **Reply #355 on:** October 24, 2020, 06:21:46 AM »

Quote from: Veritatis on October 23, 2020, 10:07:10 PM

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Stubborn · « **Reply #356 on:** October 24, 2020, 08:43:58 AM »

Quote from: forlorn on October 24, 2020, 06:09:05 AM

And several popes before Vatican 2 altered the missal and Quo Primum. Were they breaking the law?

You are the first one ever to claim Quo Primum was altered, where did you get that from?

And no, according to the spirit of the law they did not break the law of QP by the changes they made to the missal.

forlorn · « **Reply #357 on:** October 24, 2020, 08:58:22 AM »

Quote from: Stubborn on October 24, 2020, 08:43:58 AM

You are the first one ever to claim Quo Primum was altered, where did you get that from?

And no, according to the spirit of the law they did not break the law of QP by the changes they made to the missal.

"making changes to the missal doesn't count as making changes to the missal".

Well there we have it. Guess we're done here.

MMagdala · « **Reply #358 on:** October 24, 2020, 12:27:28 PM »

I am returning to the stated topic of this thread. I do not know if the report is true, but if it is true, then the person in question -- or anyone walking a similar path -- was poorly catechized to begin with.

The Novus Ordo has become, correctly, an umbrella term. Used without the third word, "Mass," (appropriately in quotation marks, some would say). "The Novus Ordo" is not just a worship "form." It is a belief system, harmonious with that same "liturgy." It is by definition a false belief system, because there is no authentic Catholic Church that is 58 years old. There's no such thing as "a modern Catholic Church." It remains ancient in its origins, or it is a different church.

PAT317 · « **Reply #359 on:** October 24, 2020, 01:12:18 PM »

Quote from: MMagdala on October 24, 2020, 12:27:28 PM

I am returning to the stated topic of this thread. I do not know if the report is true, ...

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I will re-post the answer. The report was refuted by John Salza.
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Quote from: PAT317 on October 23, 2020, 08:43:25 AM

So, this whole thread (or at least, the title and opening post) is based on false information.

Apparently on Dr. Peter Chojnowski's site, radtradthomist, there was a post which said:

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Breaking News: John Salza has left the SSPX and has returned to the Novus Ordo church. Our source, who has worked with him on True and False Pope, says that he came to this decision "after studying sedevacantism."

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On page 3 of this thread, 2Vermont posted Salza's reply:
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Well, I recently went to the SSPX for confession and haven't attended the Novus Ordo Mass in about 20 years. And there is no "source that worked with me on True and False Pope" that is alleged, other than Robert Siscoe.

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So the original story is false on several counts.

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Point #1 was refuted by John Salza saying he went to the SSPX for confession recently - thus, he has apparently not "left the SSPX" as stated in the OP.

Point #2 was refuted, that the source "worked with him on True and False Pope", whereas only Siscoe worked with him on that book, so unless the anonymous "source" was Siscoe, this claim is false.
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If the OP is so totally unreliable as stated above, there is no reason to suppose John Salza has made any change to his habits "after studying sedevacantism" as the OP implies. From a post elsewhere on the thread, someone said where JS attends Mass during the week & on Sundays, and it doesn't sound like there has been any change.

I wish the moderator would change the title of the thread.

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Author Topic: John Salza leaves SSPX and returns to Novus Ordo (Read 33943 times)

Mark 79

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Stubborn

Re: John Salza leaves SSPX and returns to Novus Ordo

forlorn

Re: John Salza leaves SSPX and returns to Novus Ordo

MMagdala

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PAT317

Re: John Salza did NOT leave SSPX nor return to Novus Ordo