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Author Topic: Fr. Pfluger: To reject Vatican II is to be sedevacantist  (Read 7453 times)

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Re: Fr. Pfluger: To reject Vatican II is to be sedevacantist
« Reply #40 on: December 16, 2019, 11:02:54 PM »
Sad story but great advice, Sean. How many have left (and will leave) Tradition due to weariness. We must all pray for perseverance. 

Re: Fr. Pfluger: To reject Vatican II is to be sedevacantist
« Reply #41 on: December 16, 2019, 11:54:38 PM »
Sean said: This person later left the Resistance, and the last time I heard from them (about a year after this post), they said to me, "I now ask with Fr. Themann, 'Resistance to what?'"

So has the person now returned to supporting the Society of St. Pius X? Or left Tradition, or left Catholicism, or what? 

Re: Thread Topic. Vatican II was called for by the Pope and all the Bishops of the Church. Therefore, it was certainly guaranteed the perpetual promised protection of the Holy Spirit, by the indefectibility of the Teaching Church and the divine Promise. It was not ex cathedra or infallible though, but it belongs to the Ordinary and Authentic Magisterium of the Teaching Church.

See the Catechism of Pope St. Pius X: "43 Q. Of whom is the Teaching Church composed? A. The Teaching Church is composed of all the Bishops, with the Roman Pontiff at their head, be they dispersed throughout the world or assembled together in Council ... 46 Q. Are we obliged to hear the Teaching Church? A. Yes, without doubt we are obliged under pain of eternal damnation to hear the Teaching Church; for Jesus Christ has said to the Pastors of His Church, in the persons of the Apostles: "He who hears you, hears Me, and he who despises you, despises Me." (See Ninth Article of the Creed, Answers to Questions, Q. 43, and Q 46.)"


Re: Fr. Pfluger: To reject Vatican II is to be sedevacantist
« Reply #42 on: December 17, 2019, 10:23:26 AM »
Can I have a loaded shredded pork burrito instead of a sandwich?  ::)

As for FSsp defectors the indulterous community here in northern Alberta had one join the archdiocese last year. Many were shocked but I wasn’t surprised. 

Alas too many friends still blind about the fssp let alone the neo sspx. 

More prayer and sacrifice are needed apparently.

Re: Fr. Pfluger: To reject Vatican II is to be sedevacantist
« Reply #43 on: December 17, 2019, 12:21:10 PM »
Vatican II should be thrown in the dustbin of history where it belongs.

It was a total unmitigated disaster, and for souls with eternal destinies!  We're talking X number of souls in hell rather than heaven because of this robber council!  

Does it get any worse than that?

WW2 or the future WW3 would pale in comparison. War only destroys bodies and material things. Vatican II destroyed souls.
I always thought the V2 council as a heavily salted cobalt - theologically and liturgically that is - weapon of Mass destruction. The lethal spiritual radiation unfortunately will have a long half life, thus adding to the already massive casualty list of souls that ever groweth.
MacDonalds tells us they have over a billion served. If we were to erect a V2 arch, it would or could read "Over a billion souls SKEWERED"
Certainly no loving that! :cowboy: