Author Topic: Italy: Meeting of Superiors of the Society of St. Pius X (Read 35826 times)

LordPhan · « **Reply #25 on:** October 07, 2011, 05:18:03 PM »

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Also, the contents of the Doctrinal Preamble are not the laity's business - not at this juncture in any case. Too many of us often forget that the SSPX is a *religious congregation* that has a right to its privacy regarding its private affairs just like any other religious order of the Catholic Church.

Let me get this straight - "the right to privacy" regarding the doctrines that Catholics must believe? That their followers will have to accept? "Right to privacy" - sounds like something from the pro-choice camp really. Differing views on religious liberty are a "choice."

The SSPX has no legitimate ministry in the Church according to Benedict XVI. They deny that, saying that they are standing for the Faith. Yet they won't talk about what they're negotiating, so that they can spring this thing pertaining to Faithful as a fait accompli. Putrid arrogance.

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One other thing, if people are not satisfied with what has just been said above (and thus the basis for Fr. Rostand's comments, which were not cavalier, but said in his typical French candor style), then WHAT THEY LACK IS TRUST AND HOPE which is completely unfounded considering the SSPX has never departed from the same path as set by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre.

That must be why they suppressed the publication of his sermons. Bishop "elder brothers" Fellay has certainly said and done many things we can be certain Archbishop Lefebvre would never have done.

This entire post sounds like something a Communist would post. Using pure rhetoric and trying to compare things that are unrelated to produce a point that has no basis in logic. Shame on you Tele.

LordPhan · « **Reply #26 on:** October 07, 2011, 05:19:34 PM »

For the millionenth time, there were no "Negotiations".

The Doctrinal Talks, were the statements of the Doctrinal Positions of each side.

You are being fed or trying to feed misinformation Tele. Another Fail. Did your Muslim friends in the Kingdom of Satan tell you this?

Telesphorus · « **Reply #27 on:** October 07, 2011, 06:25:04 PM »

Negotiations are kept secret. There's no need to keep one's doctrinal positions secret, or the doctrinal positions of one's adversaries. There's only a need to keep negotiations secret, so people can't object until it's too late.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #28 on:** October 07, 2011, 06:26:51 PM »

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This entire post sounds like something a Communist would post. Using pure rhetoric and trying to compare things that are unrelated to produce a point that has no basis in logic. Shame on you Tele.

They have a "right to privacy" regarding their positions on Church doctrine?

That is insanity.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #29 on:** October 07, 2011, 06:29:28 PM »

The whole religious liberty angle is closely connected in fact to the issue of government tolerance of contraception which in turn is connected to the legalization of abortion. Fr. John Courtney Murray who authored Dignitatis Humanae argued that freely available contraception was a matter of religious liberty. And Benedict XVI has said the use of such devices could be a "first step towards morality." I suppose when you advocate things like that or start making agreements with people like that, you argue for a "right to privacy" when it comes to what your position is on Catholic doctrine.