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Italy: Meeting of Superiors of the Society of St. Pius X
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2011, 03:36:20 PM »
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But good friends inform us he got pretty arrogant and cavalier when the subject of the preamble came up. Our friends report that at least twenty people walked out of the meeting in disgust. Fr R. is reported to have told the assembled that the preamble and the present dealings with Rome were none of the laity's business


These supercilious priests are a disgrace to the priesthood.


You seem to forget how presumptuous, entitled and rash the laity who attend these chapels can be.

Italy: Meeting of Superiors of the Society of St. Pius X
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2011, 04:10:32 PM »
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You seem to forget how presumptuous, entitled and rash the laity who attend these chapels can be.


The only reason these priests have any legitimacy is the extent they stand for the truth of the Catholic Faith.  Now if it's none of the laity's business what sort of doctrinal statements are being "negotiated" behind closed doors then there's really no point in following priests who the alleged Pope says exercise no ministry in the Church.

These priests are rash in the extreme, and are a disgrace, but if they think the laity are rash in questioning them, they have no idea how "rash" "rashness" can be.


Italy: Meeting of Superiors of the Society of St. Pius X
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2011, 04:16:03 PM »
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In order to make this clear once again: until the doctrinal questions are clarified, the Society has no canonical status in the Church, and its ministers – even though they have been freed of the ecclesiastical penalty – do not legitimately exercise any ministry in the Church.


So then the Pope says the SSPX has no legitimate ministry until doctrinal questions are clarified.  Now the SSPX priests say these doctrinal questions in the so-called "doctrinal preamble" are not the laity's business?

That is fatal arrogance.

Italy: Meeting of Superiors of the Society of St. Pius X
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2011, 10:35:15 PM »
SSPX is all new to me. I didn't even know what it meant until after I joined this site.

Italy: Meeting of Superiors of the Society of St. Pius X
« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2011, 02:44:02 AM »
Dear Wessex, thanks for your words. I think the following information is good news:


In the beginning of this week there was a SSPX' meeting of all priests working or staying in Federal Republic of Germany, with their district superior Fr Schmidberger. That's a bare 50 priests or so.

The special speaker was Bp Fellay's first assistant, Fr Pfluger from Menzingen.
He's a Swiss-German priest and the mentor of Zionist Krah (or the other way round). Some say he's the most dangerous cleric in the entire SSPX. Verifiable he's one of the clerics who hate Bishop Williamson the most.

On this meeting Fr Pfluger tried for about two hours to advocate a SSPX agreement with Newrome. He mentioned that they want a contract with Newrome, basing on an edited version of Newrome's offer.
He's being fully supported by Fr Schmidberger's assistant and public relation man Fr Steiner, who also edits the messy official SSPX newsletter where for example he wrote that crazy Big-Bang propagation in spring 2010.
Although Fr Schmidberger doesn't speak as openly as Fr Pfluger on this matter, good sources tell me that considering a contract with Newrome Fr Schmidberger is in the same boat with Pfluger and Steiner.


After Fr Pfluger's Newrome speech, the old father Franz-Josef Maeßen stood up and gave a short but intense five minute speech. With his specious arguments he completely swept away in five minutes what Fr Pfluger said in two hours.
The speechless Fr Pfluger didn't reply anything, which is a rare moment!
Fr Maeßen's underlined as the crux of the matter, that Newrome was modernist at the time of Archbishop Lefebvre and is absolutely modernist today, so no agreement is possible.

As an additional information: Fr Maeßen was a former German SSPX district superior, he's uncompromisingly pro Archbishop Lefebvre, and by now he usually stays in an old people's home and is just working sometimes in SSPX chapels (where he gives very ardent sermons with an immense love for Archbishop Lefebvre). In contrast to some younger priests he's not in fear of certain superiors.


Now comes the crowning moment:
After his short speech, about three-quarters of the priests applauded Fr Maeßen !

(And I know of priests who liked to applaud too, but didn't dare because of potential sanctions against them.)



I think this is good news concerning certain superiors' sell-out to Newrome.
Of course the battle is not over yet, because the superiors could do what they want. However, there's also the Bishops Williamson, Galarreta and Tissier with their influence on a whole series of priests.

It looks like the powerful Newrome friends in the SSPX will have a hard time! May God prevent their betrayal of Archbishop Lefebvre's work and bless the clerics who're loyal to him!