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Author Topic: It's a Huonderful Life! Open Letter to Fr. Jorna, District Superior of the SSPX  (Read 9857 times)

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Offline Incredulous

Re: It's a Huonderful Life! Open Letter to Fr. Jorna, District Superior of the SSPX
« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2023, 02:58:11 PM »
Quote from: rum on May 02, 2023, 07:16:55 AM
Why does an SSPX bishop take the advice of the perennialist "Dr. Rama Cosmaraswany", i.e. Dr. Rama Coomaraswamy.

Bishop Tissier expressed some time ago that it was a mistake for Archbishop Lefebvre to pick Bishop Williamson.

Funny thing, but when Bishop Williamson was rector at Winona he used to invite a rabbi (more than once and more than one?) to talk to seminarians.



Or ordain a known sɛҳuąƖ predator?



After his SSPX ordination, everywhere Urrutigoity went, scandals erupted.

The latest being under Pope Benedict and Francis involving a former Opus judei Bishop of Paraguay. who had converted to Tradition.

It was if Urrutigoity was an MKUltra traveling bomb.
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Offline DustyActual

Re: It's a Huonderful Life! Open Letter to Fr. Jorna, District Superior of the SSPX
« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2023, 03:39:08 PM »
The only way to save the new rite of episcopal consecration is if the entire preface is considered the form, in that case it does appear to meet the requirements that Pope Pius XII laid down in Sacramentum Ordinis, because the entire preface does mention the power of the high priesthood and the Holy Ghost. If i recall correctly, the rite of episcopal consecration in the eastern rites has the entire preface as the form, and not just a few words like in the roman rite.The only problem with this theory is that Paul VI said that the few words which includes the phrase "governing spirit" is to be considered the form.
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Offline Marulus Fidelis

Re: It's a Huonderful Life! Open Letter to Fr. Jorna, District Superior of the SSPX
« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2023, 03:42:08 PM »
Quote from: DustyActual on May 02, 2023, 03:39:08 PM
The only way to save the new rite of episcopal consecration is if the entire preface is considered the form, in that case it does appear to meet the requirements that Pope Pius XII laid down in Sacramentum Ordinis, because the entire preface does mention the power of the high priesthood and the Holy Ghost. The only problem with this theory is that Paul VI said that the few words which includes the phrase "governing spirit" is to be considered the form.
Agreed. If the whole preface was the form it could be considered valid. Unfortunately, most people pretend as if it is in fact the form.
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Offline Plenus Venter

Re: It's a Huonderful Life! Open Letter to Fr. Jorna, District Superior of the SSPX
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2023, 07:03:09 PM »
Quote from: rum on May 02, 2023, 07:16:55 AM
Bishop Tissier expressed some time ago that it was a mistake for Archbishop Lefebvre to pick Bishop Williamson.
Really? Do you have a reference for this, Rum? I guess he would have preferred the Archbishop had chosen a few more prudent turncoats so they could have remained united amongst themselves... As one of the SSPX priests told us when the Resistance was starting: we need to stay united, that way we have more strength. Talk about Vatican IIb. "Stay in the Church and fight from within"! History repeats.
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Offline SeanJohnson

Re: It's a Huonderful Life! Open Letter to Fr. Jorna, District Superior of the SSPX
« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2023, 07:41:36 PM »
Quote from: rum on May 02, 2023, 07:16:55 AM
Bishop Tissier expressed some time ago that it was a mistake for Archbishop Lefebvre to pick Bishop Williamson.

Yeah, losing your courage after ending up on the losing side of the Letter of the Three Bishops will make you say lots of funny things to get back on the good side of the boss.
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