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Is Vax Status Relevant to Trad Courting?

Yes: Known Sterilization Nullifies a Marriage
6 (10.5%)
Yes: Couples have a right to know if their spouse will likely incur serious health problems
14 (24.6%)
Yes: If a couple is divided in morals, potential children will be confused.
20 (35.1%)
Yes: It will divide the family if only some are vaxed (i.e., some not allowed to go certain places)
1 (1.8%)
Yes: Other
9 (15.8%)
No: Why would vax status be relevant to courting?
7 (12.3%)

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Re: Is Vax Status Relevant to Trad Courting?
« Reply #45 on: January 21, 2022, 02:44:35 AM »
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  • Spouse A with Radiation Sickness or Spouse B who was vaccinated for Covid before the nuclear war?

    Decisions in the future are not neat and made in the world of today.
    Spouse C, as in no spouse.  Be celibate.


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    Re: Is Vax Status Relevant to Trad Courting?
    « Reply #46 on: January 21, 2022, 06:07:05 AM »
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  • Spouse C, as in no spouse.  Be celibate.
    A monk at the monastery in Silver City, NM, told me "spouse C" is the best choice.  When I objected and said, "But then the human race would end," he replied  "what a way to go!"  
    He is right!!


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    Re: Is Vax Status Relevant to Trad Courting?
    « Reply #47 on: January 21, 2022, 10:30:00 AM »
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  • I said yes as in "other", as I would say "all of the above" to the "yes" options listed, with the exception of the known sterilization answer, as I am sure on that issue. 

    I definitely won't court a girl who got the jab, it's a red flag. I'm pureblood, and I want my potential wife and children to be the same. Morals are a part of it for sure, another thing to be concerned with are the evident health side-effects. Why would I want to proverbially roll the dice with a jabbed girl and find out that I really can't have children with her because of it? After all, I know that I possibly could not annul that marriage, and I'd rather not have to go through that process in the first place. 
     
    Part of the survival of the Catholic Faith is the survival of married life and the family, and why should we put that in jeopardy by essentially rewarding those who got the jab with a spouse when we know that it is immoral and that it has a high chance of destroying one's fertility? 

    Sure, it may narrow my options, but it's worth it. I believe in the Providence of God, and moreover, I only have to marry one woman if married life is for me. It's like this quote from hockey coach Herb Brooks in the movie Miracle: 


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    If we play 'em [the Russians] 10 times, they might win nine. But NOT this game.



    If I were to court ten young Catholic women (not at once of course), nine of those courtships might fall through, perhaps even on account of this issue. But I only need one courtship to work out in order to get married. 

    In the thread that Legion Camp posted, he linked this article, which is really telling. It's about how plenty of young men are avoiding women who got the jab like a plague, and how jabbed women in return are attempting to lie about their status in order to retain prospective suitors. Here's an excerpt: 


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    Women in New York have started lying about their vaccination status because of widespread perception among men that they are infertile or will bear children with birth defects. One man, who wants to remain anonymous, said:

    “In clubs, they claim they’re NOT vax’d. They say things like ‘Oh COVID is bullshit‘ or ‘I don’t want to try this new experimental shot‘.

    However, after going out with them several times, the women finally admit they took the vax . . . and watch as most potential husbands leave them almost on the spot.”

    The person went on to say that at least two separate women asked him why he would break off relations with them over something like the jab, and he told them:

    “I don’t want defective children and I won’t get closer to a girl who lied to my face from the start.”


    If this is what worldly men are doing today, then Catholic men should learn a lesson in fortitude from them if they're on the fence about taking a firm stance against marrying GMWs (Genetically Modified Women). 






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    Re: Is Vax Status Relevant to Trad Courting?
    « Reply #48 on: January 21, 2022, 10:55:34 AM »
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  • A monk at the monastery in Silver City, NM, told me "spouse C" is the best choice.  When I objected and said, "But then the human race would end," he replied  "what a way to go!" 
    He is right!!

    Well then, don't let any of us stop you.



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    Re: Is Vax Status Relevant to Trad Courting?
    « Reply #49 on: January 21, 2022, 11:33:56 AM »
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  • I said yes as in "other", as I would say "all of the above" to the "yes" options listed, with the exception of the known sterilization answer, as I am sure on that issue.

    I definitely won't court a girl who got the jab, it's a red flag. I'm pureblood, and I want my potential wife and children to be the same. Morals are a part of it for sure, another thing to be concerned with are the evident health side-effects. Why would I want to proverbially roll the dice with a jabbed girl and find out that I really can't have children with her because of it? After all, I know that I possibly could not annul that marriage, and I'd rather not have to go through that process in the first place.
     
    Part of the survival of the Catholic Faith is the survival of married life and the family, and why should we put that in jeopardy by essentially rewarding those who got the jab with a spouse when we know that it is immoral and that it has a high chance of destroying one's fertility?

    Sure, it may narrow my options, but it's worth it. I believe in the Providence of God, and moreover, I only have to marry one woman if married life is for me. It's like this quote from hockey coach Herb Brooks in the movie Miracle:




    If I were to court ten young Catholic women (not at once of course), nine of those courtships might fall through, perhaps even on account of this issue. But I only need one courtship to work out in order to get married.

    In the thread that Legion Camp posted, he linked this article, which is really telling. It's about how plenty of young men are avoiding women who got the jab like a plague, and how jabbed women in return are attempting to lie about their status in order to retain prospective suitors. Here's an excerpt:



    If this is what worldly men are doing today, then Catholic men should learn a lesson in fortitude from them if they're on the fence about taking a firm stance against marrying GMWs (Genetically Modified Women).

    Fantastic post, brother!
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    Re: Is Vax Status Relevant to Trad Courting?
    « Reply #50 on: January 21, 2022, 12:29:57 PM »
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  • They talk about a "vaccine gender gap": it's a retarded term but does express the ultimate reality, that women cave more than men to pressures. It's incuмbent on us to provide for that "gap" where girls in secular society usually move out and are on their own before marriage. This is all so basic but situations like this really hammer home proper parenting. If you don't fill the "gap" they will with vaccines and worldliness. I highly doubt as many trad women are getting the jab (or jabs period) as secular women and it's downstream of all of the other factors that contribute to single women moving out.

    I am a fan of GMW as a term... Definitely going to go over that one with my sons :)
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    Re: Is Vax Status Relevant to Trad Courting?
    « Reply #51 on: January 21, 2022, 09:29:17 PM »
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  • Fantastic post, brother!

    Thank you! I owe anything useful I say to God, from whom all good springs. 

    They talk about a "vaccine gender gap": it's a retarded term but does express the ultimate reality, that women cave more than men to pressures. It's incuмbent on us to provide for that "gap" where girls in secular society usually move out and are on their own before marriage. This is all so basic but situations like this really hammer home proper parenting. If you don't fill the "gap" they will with vaccines and worldliness. I highly doubt as many trad women are getting the jab (or jabs period) as secular women and it's downstream of all of the other factors that contribute to single women moving out.

    I am a fan of GMW as a term... Definitely going to go over that one with my sons :)

    True words indeed, glad you like the GMW term. I had to think of something on the spot that sounded like GMO, since calling them GMO women would be redundant. Trad women, like trad men, are wise enough in general to see through this kind of stuff for what it is. However, we must be aware that converts from NO or any of the thousands of false creeds out there may not have been smart or brave enough to avoid this stuff. 

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    Re: Is Vax Status Relevant to Trad Courting?
    « Reply #52 on: July 24, 2022, 04:42:13 PM »
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  • 2 people have opined that the Vax status of potential spouses is not relevant to courting.

    I would be interested to learn the reasons for that opinion.

    I won’t argue with you.  Just want to understand your perspective, if you’d be willing to share it.
    Me. Simply because I won't demand what I cannot offer. I have not written in the thread because it's a particular situation, not a general answer.


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    Re: Is Vax Status Relevant to Trad Courting?
    « Reply #53 on: July 24, 2022, 10:52:00 PM »
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  • I voted Yes #2, since besides the question of sterilization, there is the concern that the vaccinated can spread bad health effects to the unvaccinated through intimacy, etc.

    My guess is that these vaccines are going to further devastate society.

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    Re: Is Vax Status Relevant to Trad Courting?
    « Reply #54 on: July 25, 2022, 01:50:07 AM »
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  • The damage from the clot shot goes right to a woman's ovaries -- including the ovaries of any baby girls she manages to have. Remember, men and woman are not the same. Men are constantly producing gametes, while women are born with all the eggs they will ever have. So something that happens in-utero to a baby girl, for example, will have much longer-term consequences.

    The jab is evil. In many ways. 
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    Re: Is Vax Status Relevant to Trad Courting?
    « Reply #55 on: August 09, 2022, 10:54:41 AM »
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  • This is an excellent poll!

    The poor souls who accepted the vax for whatever reason, are in grave physical jeopardy.

    Their genome has been poisoned and sterilization is just one problem they are faced with.  In reality, anyone vaxed is high risk for a sudden death.  

    Sadly, the vaxed should be preparing to leave this world :facepalm:
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Re: Is Vax Status Relevant to Trad Courting?
    « Reply #56 on: August 16, 2022, 02:21:35 AM »
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  • The damage from the clot shot goes right to a woman's ovaries -- including the ovaries of any baby girls she manages to have. Remember, men and woman are not the same. Men are constantly producing gametes, while women are born with all the eggs they will ever have. So something that happens in-utero to a baby girl, for example, will have much longer-term consequences.

    The jab is evil. In many ways.
    Yes, but I'm afraid I have no choice. It's going to be do that or stay single. If we can't or shouldn't have kids, well, bad luck, she wouldn't have a choice either. It's not the ideal situation, but I have no other.

    I think it's unfeasible to marry me with an unvaccinated traditional Catholic women. But I can marry one who was vaccinated and repented.

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    Re: Is Vax Status Relevant to Trad Courting?
    « Reply #57 on: August 16, 2022, 02:41:12 AM »
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  • Yes, but I'm afraid I have no choice. It's going to be do that or stay single. If we can't or shouldn't have kids, well, bad luck, she wouldn't have a choice either. It's not the ideal situation, but I have no other.

    I think it's unfeasible to marry me with an unvaccinated traditional Catholic women. But I can marry one who was vaccinated and repented.

    I would recommend following some of the protocols that have been developed to rid the body of jab.  As Matthew pointed out, men produce fresh sperm throughout their lives, and the question is whether the jab would remain in the body and continue effecting the new sperm vs. with a woman, where all the ova are there with her for life.

    Just pray to God about where He should lead you.  You could marry a vaccinated woman, but I should think that the risk of birth defects.  I think that the most important thing is to be honest with a prospective spouse about your jab status.

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    Re: Is Vax Status Relevant to Trad Courting?
    « Reply #58 on: August 16, 2022, 06:37:15 AM »
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  • Yes, but I'm afraid I have no choice. It's going to be do that or stay single. If we can't or shouldn't have kids, well, bad luck, she wouldn't have a choice either. It's not the ideal situation, but I have no other.

    I think it's unfeasible to marry me with an unvaccinated traditional Catholic women. But I can marry one who was vaccinated and repented.
    Have you ever considered moving to a location where you might be able to find a spouse who isn't vaccinated?  Or corresponding via ling distance originally?

    One of my friends here in the states originally met her Italian husband online.  😅
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    Re: Is Vax Status Relevant to Trad Courting?
    « Reply #59 on: August 16, 2022, 07:52:14 AM »
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  • Have you ever considered moving to a location where you might be able to find a spouse who isn't vaccinated?  Or corresponding via ling distance originally?

    One of my friends here in the states originally met her Italian husband online.  😅

    I think he feels guilty about marrying an unvaccinated woman because he himself is vaccinated.