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Offline JohnAnthonyMarie

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Is there a Southern California SSPX MC contact?
« on: November 17, 2014, 08:13:15 PM »
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  • I would enjoy communicating with a SSPX MC Priest near Southern California.

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    Is there a Southern California SSPX MC contact?
    « Reply #1 on: November 17, 2014, 08:21:07 PM »
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    The name decided on was the Priestly Union Marcel Lefebvre...ULMC.

    The SSPX-MC was invented by Pfeifferites, in other parts of the world nobody understands SSPX-MC or what it means.
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...


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    Is there a Southern California SSPX MC contact?
    « Reply #2 on: November 17, 2014, 08:34:20 PM »
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    The name decided on was the Priestly Union Marcel Lefebvre...ULMC.

    The SSPX-MC was invented by Pfeifferites, in other parts of the world nobody understands SSPX-MC or what it means.


    Well, that came off as rather Euro-smarmy. What's wrong with them keeping Marian Corps? Since he was asking about Southern California- I guess those who matter would know what he means, huh?

    How anyone can have such a hatred of a group of good priests who are trying to do a good thing is beyond me.

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    Is there a Southern California SSPX MC contact?
    « Reply #3 on: November 17, 2014, 08:47:48 PM »
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    I would enjoy communicating with a SSPX MC Priest near Southern California.

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    The name decided on was the Priestly Union Marcel Lefebvre...ULMC.

    The SSPX-MC was invented by Pfeifferites, in other parts of the world nobody understands SSPX-MC or what it means.


    Well, that came off as rather Euro-smarmy. What's wrong with them keeping Marian Corps? Since he was asking about Southern California- I guess those who matter would know what he means, huh?

    How anyone can have such a hatred of a group of good priests who are trying to do a good thing is beyond me.



    It's not hatred, I don't even know of a single priest who goes by that name. If the Fr. Pfeiffer group goes by that name I wouldn't know it, the people who push the redlight position are pushing that name on purpose probably to split into two groups.  No other priests recognize that name, I have not even heard Fr. Pfeiffer speak it. I go by what the resistance priest I attend Mass with ULMC.
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...

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    Is there a Southern California SSPX MC contact?
    « Reply #4 on: November 17, 2014, 09:02:17 PM »
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  • Maybe you don't know it, Centro, but that doesn't mean no one uses it. It's common here in the states and Mexico. I think maybe you just don't like it because the MC formed before the union in Europe, and think it should be eclipsed.

    SSPX-MC (Marian Corps)

    What's behind the name?
    by Fr Chazal
    As the forces of the resistance are gathering, tentative names have been given to it, provisionally; the most disastrous denomination being the holier than thou "strict observance" qualifier.

    The following is just a submission that I make. Many priests of the resistance are in favor, and we are beginning to use the acronym... l hope it is going to stick.                                        

    ONE

    The first,and maybe most important point is that we remain and will always be priests of the Society of St Pius the tenth. Our expulsion is invalid because we upheld the will of the Founder, and the goal of our institute which is the Priesthood of Our Lord Jesus Christ. That Priesthood suffers a terrible offence once Vatican II and the new mass and all wicked reforms, especially the New Code, begin to be recognized suicidally by the top management of the Order itself, notwithstanding the practice of double talk.

    Hence we refuse to admit to be the authors of the separation between the official sspx and a remnant of it who adheres exactly to the original notion of the society. Our Antimodernist Oath, the "promitto" of our ordinations, our original engagement formula and the vows taken by those who can no longer accept the unacceptable, precisely because of these commitments, remain in full force, nay, are indeed fulfilled on this painful occasion.

    Moreover, the rules and regulations of our Founder are very wise, and very mild, a little bit like the rule of Saint Benedict. The placing of the Gifts of the Holy Ghost as their common thread gives them a wonderful depth. They have worked very well for forty years, and we do not have the leisure to reinvent from top to bottom an entire set of rules and ceremonies for priests, seminarians and religious. To think ourselves wiser than the Archbishop would be certainly presomptuous.By keeping the name SSPX, we also retain automatically the other name of our order "Apostles of Jesus and Mary". This being said, the same constitutions need to be amended to remedy the disastrous centralization, businessification and bureaucratization of the Society in general, and the dangerous accuмulation of power of the Superior General over an excessive length of time. Some secundary changes may have to be made on the way priests are trained.
                                             
    TWO

    Hence, while the name sspx has to remain, a qualifier has to be added.

    As the xspx, Fr Wegner saying, is clearly rebranding itself as a non fighting corporation, changing the tone of its public speech, while its founder famously described if as a little army of re-builders, we need to stand firm against the liberal evils of this time:

    # the recurrent desire to conform to this modern world,

    # the desire to be accepted and recognized in our differences,

    # the growing tiredness, apathy and loss of priestly flame, (something not too surprising after forty years of struggle).

    # and lastly, the reigning intellectual anarchy.

    Hence it would seem fitting to call ourselves an army, or even better, something less than an army, i.e., an army corps.

    Army corps were originally designed to engage the enemy more quickly and more flexibly in order to take advantage of opportunities before they fade. Therefore it is a lighter and more adaptable structure than a whole cuмbersome army. At the same time, an army corps includes all three branches: infantry, cavalry and artillery. In the same vein we shall run a whole grid through priories, houses of training (schools and seminaries), and retreat houses, but in a lighter and more efficient fashion.

    Therefore we hope to give a harder and more frugal training to our seminarians so that they learn how not to please themselves in a self conceited spiritual ego, but how to please God. "Christus non sibi placuit" (Rom XV,3). Magnificent buildings are not indicated at this time as families are requested to struggle and be frugal themselves.

                                             
    THREE

    Then, again, precisely as the Fatima solution is despised, Our Lady remains ever more the "whole reason of our hope"(St Bernard). She leads us into battle like Deborah, because it is the will of God that victory be attributed to her (Judic. IV,9). As the Archbishop told us on the occasion of her Immaculate Conception she is the opposite of this deathly admixture of truth and error and of this desire to be recognized by any Council of the impious ones, whatever be the place they unjustly occupy.

    May she enable us to stand in the truth, in all humility before Our God who is the First Truth or Truth Itself, and then before other men to whom Truth is owed as a first Charity.

    Francois Chazal SSPX Marian Corps.

    July 2013


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    Is there a Southern California SSPX MC contact?
    « Reply #5 on: November 17, 2014, 10:09:02 PM »
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  • Some hopefully helpful info in your pm, JohnAnthonyMarie. Sorry about the distraction.

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    Is there a Southern California SSPX MC contact?
    « Reply #6 on: November 18, 2014, 12:31:33 AM »
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  • May I have that information too, please?  I am momentarily in the area.

    Thank you.

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    Is there a Southern California SSPX MC contact?
    « Reply #7 on: November 18, 2014, 07:56:11 AM »
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  • After reading through Centroamerica's many posts it has become apparent that he is someone's "agent provocateur", and a very clumsy one at that ...