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Author Topic: Is the obligation to attend Mass on Ascension Thursday binding according to SSPX  (Read 16345 times)

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I'll tell you one thing, Jim: I attended holy Mass at the Los Gatos chapel in 2009 on the Feast of the Ascension, and there were very few people in the pews. The celebrant was a third stringer from the Trans-Alpine Redemptorists. I expected Father Emily to be saying the Mass. The priest was "effeminate", like a Conciliar priest is. Smiles, nods, feeble mind, etc. I got the distinct impression that the Society does not consider Ascension Thursday a major feast, and it is nearly certain that almost none of the regular congregation took the day off work. My disgust was immense, because I am a pre-Vatican II Catholic, not a modern Catholic. I reject the Council and the "reforms". In my opinion, the Feast of the Ascension is a Holy Day of Obligation, whatever the Conciliar Church or the Society feels.
The redemptorists of stronsay opened dialogue with the conciliar church in 2008.  I suspect what you experienced in 2009 was similar to pre vat 2 conciliarism, and similar to what is now going on in the sspx.

, you would have similar experience in 2004 and 2006).
Not necessarily.
The redemptorists opened dialogue with the conciliar church in 2008. 
Ergo, he might have had a completely different experience with them in 2004 or 2006.


Not necessarily.
The redemptorists opened dialogue with the conciliar church in 2008.
Ergo, he might have had a completely different experience with them in 2004 or 2006.
Sorry for any misunderstanding, but I was referring to the "experience" he had with the parishioners (not being at Holy Day Mass) and not with Fr. Alphonsus. 
But since you brought up brought up Fr. Alphonsus in 2004 or 2006, then the parishioners would tell you that Father had issues with the Redemptotist leaders before they opened dialog and thus was not surprised they made a deal after 2008. But as for Fr. Alphonsus manner or style in preaching would have been similar in 2004 to 2009 and beyond.

At the Walton, KY, SSPX parish............1st it was the change in the rubrics - e.g. , the standing instead of kneeling at certain times during the Mass , then the pastor accepting permission from the diocesan modernist 'bishop' to witness sspx weddings, now no obligation under pain of mortal sin to attend Ascension Thursday Mass, etc.......even most recently allowing N  O  priests in the sanctuary during a nuptial Mass.


Marcel Lefebvre -  Econe, July 29, 1976............"That the Conciliar Church " (as Msgr. Benelli himself called the Church in his letter to the Archbishop in June of '76) ,  " is a schismatic Church because it breaks with the Catholic Church that has always been.  It has its new dogmas, its new priesthood, its new institutions, its new worship, all already condemned by the Church in many a docuмent, official and definitive.
The Church that affirms such errors is at once schismatic and heretical.  This Conciliar Church is, therefore, not Catholic.  To whatever extent Pope, Bishops, priests, or faithful adhere to this new Church, they separate themselves from the Catholic Church.   Today's Church is the true Church only to whatever extent it is a continuation of and one body with the Church of yesterday and of always.  The norm of Catholic faith is Tradition.  The demand of His Eminence Msgr. Benelli is, then , illuminating: submission to the Conciliar Church, to the Vatican II Church, to the schismatic Church.  For our part, we persevere in the Catholic Church, by the grace of Our Lord Jesus Christ and the intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary."

At the Walton, KY, SSPX parish............1st it was the change in the rubrics - e.g. , the standing instead of kneeling at certain times during the Mass , then the pastor accepting permission from the diocesan modernist 'bishop' to witness sspx weddings, now no obligation under pain of mortal sin to attend Ascension Thursday Mass, etc.......even most recently allowing N  O  priests in the sanctuary during a nuptial Mass.


Marcel Lefebvre -  Econe, July 29, 1976............"That the Conciliar Church " (as Msgr. Benelli himself called the Church in his letter to the Archbishop in June of '76) ,  " is a schismatic Church because it breaks with the Catholic Church that has always been.  It has its new dogmas, its new priesthood, its new institutions, its new worship, all already condemned by the Church in many a docuмent, official and definitive.
The Church that affirms such errors is at once schismatic and heretical.  This Conciliar Church is, therefore, not Catholic.  To whatever extent Pope, Bishops, priests, or faithful adhere to this new Church, they separate themselves from the Catholic Church.   Today's Church is the true Church only to whatever extent it is a continuation of and one body with the Church of yesterday and of always.  The norm of Catholic faith is Tradition.  The demand of His Eminence Msgr. Benelli is, then , illuminating: submission to the Conciliar Church, to the Vatican II Church, to the schismatic Church.  For our part, we persevere in the Catholic Church, by the grace of Our Lord Jesus Christ and the intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary."
SSPX Walton's gradual subservience to newChurch is interesting to watch.

Like an open psychology experiment, with sad outcomes for many of the established trad families.

And how calculated it all was, with the SSPX putting a new trad chapel across the street from the Novus ordo St. Joseph parish.
Only a few years later, they "coincidentally" welcome the anti-pro life, conciliar bishop into the school.

It's a good demonstration of our Catholic remnant's "losing battle" with weakness of intellect, human respect and chronic concupiscence :facepalm: