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Re: IS HE OR ISN'T FELLAY A FREEMASON
« Reply #75 on: May 16, 2019, 03:09:03 PM »
But the hypothesis you describe above? Only a bitter, angry, sore loser Sedevacantist could actually believe that.
Yes, I guess that would be a way to describe them. The more extreme kind. I was searching for information about Hutton Gibson to see if he believed something similar but I cannot find much about him right now. I don't know why it isn't coming up on google or duck duck go (is that a good search engine?) for me. I thought he used to have a website where he expressed doubts about Lefebvre but I can not find it right now.

But I do think it is an interesting conspiracy with legs if you are paranoid and learned about the rumors of Lefebvre's Bishop being a Freemason. One could think Lefebvre was chosen to be the false savior of traditionalists because his orders were not valid instead of Thuc who had valid untainted orders.

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Re: IS HE OR ISN'T FELLAY A FREEMASON
« Reply #76 on: May 16, 2019, 03:26:29 PM »
But I do think it is an interesting conspiracy with legs if you are paranoid and learned about the rumors of Lefebvre's Bishop being a Freemason. One could think Lefebvre was chosen to be the false savior of traditionalists because his orders were not valid instead of Thuc who had valid untainted orders.

You have admitted many times that you enjoy hearing different points of view, even from those you describe in a negative manner.
You really are a glutton for punishment, aren't you? I don't know if it's excessive curiosity or what.

You give WAY too much thought, credence, and credit to idiots. That's the biggest fault I've seen in you, and I've read your posts on CI for years.

If you want to end up holding the truth in your hands, you have to learn how to boldly throw GARBAGE in the incinerator (causing irrevocable destruction to said garbage). If you eat garbage (or even lick it or handle it too much) you're going to end up sick.

I'm "extreme" in the eyes of the world. To bring the world back to the truth, back to God, back to sanity, things would have to be done that would be considered radical, extreme, etc.

But you need to learn the difference between "an extreme position" and "insanity".

There are few man that did more for God, more for Tradition, and did more damage to the Conciliar cause than +ABL. Actions speak louder than words or speculation. There is ZERO CHANCE that he was secretly a God-hating Freemason trying to do his part to destroy the Church.


Re: IS HE OR ISN'T FELLAY A FREEMASON
« Reply #77 on: May 16, 2019, 04:26:00 PM »
Moderator: Apologies for trashing your post -- I clicked "modify" instead of "quote". It happens sometimes, and I apologize.

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Re: IS HE OR ISN'T FELLAY A FREEMASON
« Reply #78 on: May 16, 2019, 04:36:47 PM »
Those positions, although unpopular, at least have rational reasons behind them and pass the "smell test".

You can't say that "Trads are fringe. Believing in aliens is fringe. Therefore they're kind of the same." Yes, both are unpopular and counter-culture, but being Traditional Catholic is sane and rational, whereas we know that God didn't create any aliens. Our Lady of Fatima said that UFOs are devils.

Withholding judgment and looking into something is praiseworthy. But once you find insanity, you need to be able to "let it go" and completely reject it. Only by being completely detached from the consequences can you ever hope to find the truth in a sea of lies.

Our Lord gave us some pointers on how to sort out the truth from lies. "Judge a tree by its fruits." He elaborated, "Do men gather figs from thistles?" He invites us to use our brains.

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Re: IS HE OR ISN'T FELLAY A FREEMASON
« Reply #79 on: May 16, 2019, 04:43:53 PM »
Matto,

Please give me the argument why supporting Fr. Pfeiffer/Hewko in the early Resistance from 2012 to mid-2014 would constitute "idiocy".

Keeping in mind that supporters/followers aren't privy to every secret of the heart, or every thing that happens behind closed doors. How could a non-idiot have "known better" and not supported Fr. Pfeiffer back then?

Be careful. This time period was before Ambrose, before Tetherow, before Pablo doxxed all Fr. Pfeiffer's coordinators, before the infamous "The Devil and Mr. Hernandez" article was known to those outside Phoenix AZ, before any of the OLMC scandals, and before Fr. Pfeiffer broke with +Williamson and committed his "seminary" to operating without a bishop.

I deny that supporting the early Resistance constitutes ANY MEASURE of "idiocy". Especially in light of the fact that the Resistance turned out to be 100% correct! Just look at the SSPX today. Go read the CCCC thread if you doubt the Resistance was right.