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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: IS HE OR ISN'T FELLAY A FREEMASON
« Reply #65 on: May 16, 2019, 10:04:59 AM »
Thank you! I'm sorry I must still be missing something though. Excommunicated sacraments are illicit but still valid, no?

Correct.  Excommunication has no effect on the validity of the Sacraments.

Offline Ladislaus

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« Reply #66 on: May 16, 2019, 10:06:59 AM »
I noticed that too. It's uncomfortably close, but it doesn't show the same pressure on the knuckle. And +Fellay's thumb is making no contact at all. Unless this was snapped just as they were letting go.

Right.  Perhaps Benedict XVI was applying the handshake (as a test?) and that's how +Fellay's hand ended up in response.  Or else it was just an awkward limp-wristed handshake by one or both men  :laugh1:.

What strikes me more about the picture is the giddy smile on +Fellay's face ... as if he's star-struck, like a teenage girl shaking hands with one of The Beatles back in the day.  It suggests a significant degree of human respect ... and not merely reverence for the Office he believes that Benedict held.  And that actually suggests that the two are NOT in fact Masonic co-conspirators.  I get the impression that +Fellay's giddy about finally having "hit the big time" ... no doubt fantasizing about wearing that white cassock some day.


Offline Pax Vobis

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« Reply #67 on: May 16, 2019, 10:16:10 AM »
http://www.ourladyisgod.com/images/eBooks/Alta-Vendita.pdf

It's not necessary to prove that +Fellay is or isn't a freemason.  Just like those who wrote the "Alta Vendita" said, they do not necessarily want a pope who is a freemason, but only a pope who believes the "revolutionary and humanitarian" principles; "a pope according to our needs".  So it is with +Fellay.  He is a leader in the new-sspx who fits the freemasonic bill.
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p.s.  That was one handshake in the list of many.  What about all the other times they met?  Maybe +Fellay knew the cameras were present and didn't want to make it obvious?  He has to worry because many Trads are aware of this stuff, while +Benedict and everyone else knows that the sheeple have no idea, so they can be more relaxed.  Either way, it doesn't matter.

Offline Ladislaus

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« Reply #68 on: May 16, 2019, 12:49:53 PM »
http://www.ourladyisgod.com/images/eBooks/Alta-Vendita.pdf

It's not necessary to prove that +Fellay is or isn't a freemason.  Just like those who wrote the "Alta Vendita" said, they do not necessarily want a pope who is a freemason, but only a pope who believes the "revolutionary and humanitarian" principles; "a pope according to our needs".  So it is with +Fellay.  He is a leader in the new-sspx who fits the freemasonic bill.
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p.s.  That was one handshake in the list of many.  What about all the other times they met?  Maybe +Fellay knew the cameras were present and didn't want to make it obvious?  He has to worry because many Trads are aware of this stuff, while +Benedict and everyone else knows that the sheeple have no idea, so they can be more relaxed.  Either way, it doesn't matter.

Right.  Either way he appears to be doing their bidding, and that's what counts.

Offline Matthew

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« Reply #69 on: May 16, 2019, 01:00:44 PM »
What strikes me more about the picture is the giddy smile on +Fellay's face ... as if he's star-struck, like a teenage girl shaking hands with one of The Beatles back in the day.  It suggests a significant degree of human respect ... and not merely reverence for the Office he believes that Benedict held.  And that actually suggests that the two are NOT in fact Masonic co-conspirators.  I get the impression that +Fellay's giddy about finally having "hit the big time" ... no doubt fantasizing about wearing that white cassock some day.

You're absolutely right. He's proud and excited about what he is "going to accomplish" by bringing the SSPX into the Conciliar fold. He is delusional and FULL of vainglory. He's all about fame, numbers, accomplishments.

You know how they say "God's ways are not our ways?" Well, the poster child for "our ways" is the human prudence and "wisdom" shown constantly by +Fellay. Other men of God have their projects and ideas too -- which might turn out to be unsuccessful. But at least the latter is thinking along the same lines as God -- using His means, using the science of the Saints -- they are at least in the same ballpark. Bishop Fellay's projects, ideas, and ways are 100% worldly-minded and have no chance of being blessed or approved by God. Compromise? Ignoring/suppressing the truth? Smearing one's enemies? Propaganda and lies? Branding agencies? Hollywood marketing? Sorry, that's about as far from God's ways as you can get!

+Fellay thinks he's so much greater than the Archbishop, and he couldn't be more wrong! He isn't 1/1000th the man +ABL was.