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Author Topic: IS HE OR ISN'T FELLAY A FREEMASON  (Read 34330 times)

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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: IS HE OR ISN'T FELLAY A FREEMASON
« Reply #40 on: May 14, 2019, 08:24:57 AM »
I don't believe that the SSPX was FOUNDED as "controlled opposition", but I do believe that the enemies of Tradition immediately saw an opportunity to take it over and turn it into controlled opposition, most likely by sending in infiltrators.

Could they have sent in men like Father Schmidberger and +Fellay?  Of course they could have.

What else is the neo-SSPX besides controlled opposition?

https://novusordowatch.org/tag/franz-schmidberger/

Re: IS HE OR ISN'T FELLAY A FREEMASON
« Reply #41 on: May 14, 2019, 09:40:09 AM »
I don't believe that the SSPX was FOUNDED as "controlled opposition", but I do believe that the enemies of Tradition immediately saw an opportunity to take it over and turn it into controlled opposition, most likely by sending in infiltrators.
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Offline Matthew

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Re: IS HE OR ISN'T FELLAY A FREEMASON
« Reply #42 on: May 14, 2019, 09:52:40 AM »
I don't believe that the SSPX was FOUNDED as "controlled opposition", but I do believe that the enemies of Tradition immediately saw an opportunity to take it over and turn it into controlled opposition, most likely by sending in infiltrators.

Could they have sent in men like Father Schmidberger and +Fellay?  Of course they could have.

What else is the neo-SSPX besides controlled opposition?

https://novusordowatch.org/tag/franz-schmidberger/

I agree. And I would add: any "approved by Rome" group is inherently, and automatically, "controlled opposition". This now includes the neo-SSPX.

Remember that much bigger fish -- ahem, an organization called THE CATHOLIC CHURCH -- were infiltrated by Communists and Freemasons in the last century. What kind of naive IDIOT would believe that Freemasons and others would be prevented from infiltrating a MERE BRANCH of the tree like the SSPX?

AA-1025. Those men knew how to infiltrate the Church. They have to walk the walk, be of good reputation, be very pious, etc. or they'd never get ordained as priests!

What, did Christ not protect the Church Herself from infiltration, but He protects the SSPX like the apple of His eye? Wouldn't it be vain and proud to actually believe that? What kind of insanity, what kind of SSPX Exceptionalism, would it take to believe such ludicrous nonsense?

Offline Matthew

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« Reply #43 on: May 14, 2019, 09:55:45 AM »
I don't disagree with that.  My point was only that it seems that +Fellay is more positively pro-reunification than the other two bishops.

Yes indeed.

Bishop Fellay is on a different level than the other two.
The other two bishops are just weak, naive, imprudent, etc.

Re: IS HE OR ISN'T FELLAY A FREEMASON
« Reply #44 on: May 14, 2019, 12:58:15 PM »
You seem to think that +ABL was under control of Freemasons. Well, that's probably not an unusual belief for a follower of Plinio de Oliveira and Atila Guimaraes. Guimaraes has always been very anti-SSPX from the beginning, and I assume that de Oliveira had also been anti-SSPX. But of course those two held/hold belief that de Oliveira was the true prophet sent by God to restore the Church, and that the SSPX from the beginning was a distraction away from this. Would that be right?
Meg, you nailed it. Only a Plinio-worshipping, member of what Bishop Mayer called an "anti-Catholic, anti-clerical . .heretical sect" could come up with such a ludicrous attack on the good Bishop (without whom, none of us would have access to the TLM).
How bizarre that a member of the TFP/TIA cult would attempt to charge another group with being the "controlled opposition." Think about it. Who ACTUALLY is the controlled opposition? TFP and its splinter groups, TIA, America Needs Fatima and many more.
The ONLY counter-revolution to the freemasonic, illuminist, communist, satanic revolution is the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church established by Jesus Christ as a HIERARCHY, with St. Peter as its head. Jesus said "Thou art Peter and upon this rock I found my Church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it."
TFP/TIA and other Plinio- worshiping groups are NOT the counter-revolution; they are the controlled opposition. They elevate the laity over the hierarchy founded by Jesus Christ.
They are a cult which appeals to pride by telling their recruits that they are "special" and part of the "elite" and others "just don't want to understand." They are a cult who worships their founder Plinio. They make a mockery of Catholic prayer when they change the words of the Ave Maria to make it a prayer to Plinio. They make a mockery of Catholic tradition, when they take Louis de Montfort's consecration to Our Lady and twist it instead, into a consecration to Plinio, as Atila did when he laid face down before Plinio, with Plinio's foot on his neck, and Atila then made himself a slave to Plinio, taking his slave name in this mockery of a "consecration".
The Plinio- worshiping cults are the controlled opposition. They accuse others of being what they themselves are. (Just like Clinton colluding with Russia and then accusing  Trump of doing what she actually did.)