The question of "Where is your living magisterium today" is THE question that all traditionalists ponder regardless of their stance on the crisis. Centroamerica is correct when he says that "Until the Church speaks on the post-conciliar crisis, the question regarding the legitimacy of the public and notorious heretic Bergoglio will not be resolved". Differently from the dogmatic truths concerning EENS, I can only write about my current personal conclusions on this crisis, which amount to mere speculations. You know I come from a previous, almost - dogmatic sedeplenist position. I have never supported the separatist SSPX rhetoric because it does not make sense. After reading Mons. Guerard Des Lauriers works though, I realized that his thesis has a lot of merit in explaining the reason why we are experiencing such an apparent swift in the current Magisterium.
I would not say that the current Magisterium is merely in a passive state of "standby" as this was a normal interregnum; no, I would go further and say that there exist at present time a para-magisterium, actively trying to destroy Catholicism by teaching falsehood and promoting world-wide "contra - verdades". Yes, I see that there are global active forces trying to pose as the Roman Catholic Church, which make sense, because the ʝʊdɛօ-masonic infiltration of the Church is a fact well docuмented. Also, it makes more sense that there was an impostor placed to falsely occupy the Seat of Peter, rather than two thousand bishops apostatizing at once in Vatican II Council, because we know that all bishops of world without the Pope are not infallible.
In Des Lauriers words about the "Church Crisis": (using Google translation)
That is the precise date of the Magisterial contradiction occurring in a setting of a General Council, (with the promulgation of Dignitatis Humanae), which even if one wants to argue, is not infallible, it is evidently part of the Ordinary Magisterium of the Church, at the very least, and therefore, it is impossible that it teaches actively against the Faith. Contra-Verdades
Cantarella,
You are trying to answer questions that you do not have to answer. You have to begin from what is known with certainty and draw necessary conclusions but if something does not necessarily follow leave it alone.
It is a dogma that there will be perpetual successors in the papal office until the end of time. Francis/Bergoglio is no greater a heretic than his conciliar predecessors. Only his aggressive brashness, authoritarian spirit, vulgarity and overturning morality in the practical order has made him more repulsive than those who came before him even to the point of enlightening many conservative Catholics to rethink their positions. But it should not change the position of traditional Catholics.
Using the certainty of Catholic dogma we are obliged to reject everything from the conciliar church that does not accord with our immemorial ecclesiastical traditions. These traditions are not merely matters of Church discipline; they are necessary attributes of the faith that make the faith known and communicable to others. No pope possesses the authority to overturn these things but it does not require that he be removed from his office to oppose him. The office was established by God and only God can correct it. Just like the office of the high priest Caiphias. Jesus Christ advise to recognize and resist.
Remember the parable of the cockle. That cockle are heretics as taught by all the Church Fathers. The advice of Jesus Christ is to leave them until the harvest. The Church excommunicates heretics only because they are harming the faithful and that is a question of canon law. It is not a moral necessity.
The sedevacantists make the pope their rule of faith. They take the attribute of Indefectibility and interpret it to mean that the pope possesses a non-infallible infallibility and therefore can never teach doctrinal or moral error. This theory was harmless when the Church prospered but it clearly cannot stand the light of a clear examination.
The attributes of the Church: Infallibility, Indefectibility, and Authority relate directly to what St. Pius X identified in Pascendi as the three duties of the Church: to teach, to sanctify and to govern. There is an overlapping between the powers and the duties but the primary purpose of Indefectibility is duty to sanctify and worship God. Those who hold the pope as the rule of faith believe him to be infallible in his non-infallibility and thus either remove him from office or blindly obey and follow his every error. Those that hold dogma as the rule of faith subject obedience to the virtue of Religion and, like the man born blind, do not obey any command that directly or indirectly offends the virtue of Religion.
Some day we will learn that the evidence for the Indefectibility of the Church is the faithful Catholics who have preserved our immemorial ecclesiastical traditions, particularly, the immemorial received and approved rite of Mass, that is a dogma of our faith against a heretical hierarchy who would ‘deceive even the elect, if that were possible’.
Drew
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