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Author Topic: Is Father Ringrose dumping the R & R crowd?  (Read 440535 times)

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Offline cathman7

Re: Is Father Ringrose dumping the R & R crowd?
« Reply #30 on: March 10, 2018, 05:10:32 PM »
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Offline cathman7

Re: Is Father Ringrose dumping the R & R crowd?
« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2018, 07:29:48 PM »
It seems like hair-splitting. Authority is de facto extinct in the Catholic Church. 
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Offline cathman7

Re: Is Father Ringrose dumping the R & R crowd?
« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2018, 08:03:53 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on March 10, 2018, 08:01:20 PM
So you're claiming that the Church has defected.  Heresy.
That is not what I am saying -- but that is what you are implying, no? 
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Offline cathman7

Re: Is Father Ringrose dumping the R & R crowd?
« Reply #33 on: March 10, 2018, 08:11:03 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on March 10, 2018, 08:04:40 PM
You just said that authority has ceased in the Church ... that's a defection of the Church and heresy.  There's no sugar-coating that.  You may need to rethink and restate your position in non-heretical terms.
What I am saying is that according to Fr Ringrose -- authority has de facto ceased. I obviously don't believe authority has ceased because Christ has instituted the Church with a hierarchy. However, what you are saying -- correct me if I am wrong -- (I am not actually trying to be flippant) is that the normal governance of the Church has more or less stopped. 
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Offline Centroamerica

Re: Is Father Ringrose dumping the R & R crowd?
« Reply #34 on: March 10, 2018, 08:17:21 PM »
Just a little tidbit.

The Dominican priest/professor and later bishop, Guerard des Lauriers, was the confessor of Pope Pius XII (!), helped pen the Dogma of the Asssumption and also wrote the Ottaviani Intervention.

I'm not a proponent of the Thesis, but it seems to make sense. I feel that one day the Church will state one way or another on the matter.
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