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Author Topic: Is Father Ringrose dumping the R & R crowd?  (Read 440536 times)

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Re: Is Father Ringrose dumping the R & R crowd?
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2018, 09:40:35 PM »
I don't see how sedeprivationism ends up in conclavism. If anything, it opposes it.
Yes, you are correct.  It wouldn't surprise me if conservative Novus Ordo Catholics are more ready to hold a conclave than the sedevacante and sedeprivationist bishops.  I don't really fault the sede bishops for that but I wish they would at least give a general council of Catholic bishops some serious thought.

Re: Is Father Ringrose dumping the R & R crowd?
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2018, 09:50:04 PM »


Not to derail the thread, but is Cantarella's (of all screen names) post calling Archbishop Lefebvre a neo-Jansenist?? I doubt those bishops would agree with such a remark. Despite having left the SSPX, the priests that were known as the nine still have a huge admiration for Archbishop Lefebvre and believe that he was raised up by God.


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Re: Is Father Ringrose dumping the R & R crowd?
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2018, 10:08:16 PM »
Yes, you are correct.  It wouldn't surprise me if conservative Novus Ordo Catholics are more ready to hold a conclave than the sedevacante and sedeprivationist bishops.  I don't really fault the sede bishops for that but I wish they would at least give a general council of Catholic bishops some serious thought.
I never said that the sedeprivationists will hold a conclave.  They will not.  However, they will be the first victim of a conclave.  And, life is in the blood.  Their end comes like a thief in the night.  

And, in my previous post, don't be mistaken by what I said about st paul by thinking that I promote conciliarism or collegiality.  That is not the case.  I do not believe in a perfect council judging a pope a formal heretic.  

Re: Is Father Ringrose dumping the R & R crowd?
« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2018, 11:39:42 PM »


Father Chazal is unquestionably a sedeprivationist ... whether or not he'd lay claim to the term.  He is NOT R&R. 
 I suspected this but can not verify.  Can you provide some writing of his or audio lending him to be a sedeprivationist?  Even for him to say he is not a r&r is a significant position. Thanks.

Re: Is Father Ringrose dumping the R & R crowd?
« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2018, 01:33:07 AM »
Nobody ever seems to explain to me how proper authority in the Catholic Church continues according to the strict sedevacantist position. I never get a clear answer.