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Author Topic: Is Father Ringrose dumping the R & R crowd?  (Read 443272 times)

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Offline Stubborn

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Re: Is Father Ringrose dumping the R & R crowd?
« Reply #810 on: April 27, 2018, 07:44:52 AM »
Hey, baboon, you keep assuming that Paul VI was the pope to prove that he's the pope.  "the pope is incapable of doing what the pope actually did".  Again, this is the very argument of sedevacantism that he was NOT in fact the pope.  You assume that he's the pope to prove that he's the pope.  Yes, that's a circular argument where you assume the conclusion in your premise.
No, I do not have to prove the pope was the pope - it is you who have to prove he was not the pope - until then, the pope is the pope.

That's just the way that works in the Catholic Church.

Re: Is Father Ringrose dumping the R & R crowd?
« Reply #811 on: April 27, 2018, 07:45:17 AM »
The NO liturgy is not the Church's liturgy and Trent itself would have condemned it had it been perpetrated before Trent.
The NO liturgy was promulgated by the man you call the Pope of the Catholic Church. Therefore, according to you (regardless of what you say), it was promulgated by the Catholic Church.  As such you have no right to condemn it.  


Re: Is Father Ringrose dumping the R & R crowd?
« Reply #812 on: April 27, 2018, 07:46:05 AM »
If Paul VI was the legitimate Pope, then indeed the NO is the Church's Liturgy.
Bingo.

Re: Is Father Ringrose dumping the R & R crowd?
« Reply #813 on: April 27, 2018, 07:48:17 AM »
No, I do not have to prove the pope was the pope - it is yo0u who have to prove he was not the pope - until then, the pope is the pope.
That's just the way that works in the Catholic Church.
Then the NO is the pope's and the Church's liturgy.

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Re: Is Father Ringrose dumping the R & R crowd?
« Reply #814 on: April 27, 2018, 07:49:34 AM »
If Paul VI was the legitimate Pope, then indeed the NO is the Church's Liturgy. 
^^^^Confused.