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Author Topic: Is Father Ringrose dumping the R & R crowd?  (Read 442543 times)

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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Is Father Ringrose dumping the R & R crowd?
« Reply #680 on: April 19, 2018, 09:11:12 AM »

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from worshiping some bozo wearing white robes and walking around the Vatican gardens.
Isn't it odd that the two main people who are arguing 1) for the inordinate elevation of the magisterium (Ladislaus) and 2) the "never failing faith" of the pope (Cantarella), inadvertently let slip comments similar to the above, where their hatred comes out for the current pope?

They're the ones arguing that 1) he can't teach error in ANY capacity, and 2) his faith will NEVER FAIL.  Yet, they believe, that his SEAT can fail (i.e. it can be vacant).  So, I guess the pope has 3 parts to his papacy - a teaching office, his personal faith and his seat?  Never heard that before.

Secondly, if anyone worships the pope, it's them.  They have him so high up on a pedestal that if he doesn't meet their sanctity requirements, then he's THROW OUT!  What's the reason?  Well, nothing concrete, or factual, or specific, just the use of inductive reasoning.  This is an error for so many reasons, the main one being they are postulating that one can REASON to the status of the pope!  

No, One cannot use HUMAN LOGIC to reason to a SPIRITUAL TRUTH.  One cannot use REASON to judge the SPIRITUAL office of the pope!  This is the error of Rene Decartes, that one can reason to all truth...

Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Is Father Ringrose dumping the R & R crowd?
« Reply #681 on: April 19, 2018, 09:40:15 AM »
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It's critical.
Define critical.  The first i've EVER heard of this 'proximate/remote' debate is 2 months ago here.  If it's SOOOO critical, why isn't it in the catechism, or talked about in a council, etc.

It's only important because sedes/novus ordo have placed the papacy on a pedestal.  The novus ordo continues to worship the pope as an oracle; sedes realized their error, but then overreacted and committed another error, by removed the pope altogether.  So now they worship the empty pedestal.


Offline Maria Auxiliadora

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Re: Is Father Ringrose dumping the R & R crowd?
« Reply #682 on: April 19, 2018, 09:52:22 AM »
So, if dogma is the rule of faith, then why wasn't it heresy for people not to believe in it before it was defined by the Church?  Hmmmmm?  This ALONE puts the lie to Drew's invention (or reinvention of Protestant heresy that dogma is the proximate rule of faith.


For the same reason it wasn't heresy for St. Thomas Aquinas not to believe in the Immaculate Conception. Would he deny it now that the Magisterium has infallible defined the dogma? Would any Catholic, on account of the greatness of St. Thomas? No! That would be heresy.

Offline Stubborn

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Re: Is Father Ringrose dumping the R & R crowd?
« Reply #683 on: April 19, 2018, 10:08:09 AM »
Profound refutation this.

No, buddy, it's you who have lost your way and have lost touch with Catholicism.
Sorry Lad, but it is so simple - you can't find your pope = you lost your faith. Crazy as it is, there's your problem in under 10 words.

Offline Stubborn

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Re: Is Father Ringrose dumping the R & R crowd?
« Reply #684 on: April 19, 2018, 10:13:02 AM »
This is a discussion of the deaf.

Simple questions are "down thumbed" and ignored, in typical sedehypocrisy style.

I have better things to do. I hope to see you all in Heaven one day. Good luck!

PS : Drew, I am still thinking about your position on the Rule of Faith. I am not convinced, but I will let you know via PM if I want to further discuss this with you.
This. Absolutely this.

Also, sedehypocrisy comes and goes with sedesyndrome.