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Offline Servus Pius

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Is consecrating a 4th Bishop a NECESSITY?
« on: March 22, 2016, 04:36:59 AM »
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  • In my opinion, the answer is a resounding YES! I would even walk the extra mile and say that 6 Bishops is the bare minimum. Assuming that there are enough qualified candidates to fill in the remaining 3 vacancies for Bishop, we should then consider the issue of SURVIVAL. If we are to believe and accept that a great catastrophe (Chastisement, WW3..etc) is going to happen soon (within the next 3-5 years), 100 years of Fatima comes into mind, then GEOGRAPHY becomes very critical. I would agree with Matthew that the number of priest becomes irrelevant when SURVIVAL is the issue. Common sense dictates that the Bishops would no longer to be able to travel freely if WW3 or any major catastrophe's would break out.

    Hence, if we are able to have 6 Bishops then the distribution in my opinion would go like this: 1 North America, 1 South America, 2 already in Europe, 1 Asia and 1 Australia. For the purpose of survival, this would be a good set-up because let's say the Bishop in North America dies or gets killed, then the Bishop in South America would act as back-up and would have to consecrate a new Bishop for North America. Same procedure for Europe and Asia.

    However, IF the 3 Bishops are hardwired in their decision that 4 is sufficient then here is my suggestion. In this scenario, we should consider 4 major areas which are Asia, Europe, North America and South America. Here are some possible approaches:

    Plan A: If someone in North America gets chosen as the 4th Bishop, then either Bishop Williamson or Bishop Faure should be willing to go to and permanently stay in Asia.

    Plan B: If someone in Asia gets chosen as the 4th Bishop, then either Bishop Williamson or Bishop Faure should be willing to go to and permanently stay in North America.

    Plan C: Mix and Match, choose whatever combination you fancy :)

    Bottom line: 1 Bishop in Asia, 1 Bishop in Europe, 1 Bishop in North America and 1 Bishop in South America.

    PS. If you're gonna criticize me, please include your name and address, so I know where to find ya. ;-)


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    Is consecrating a 4th Bishop a NECESSITY?
    « Reply #1 on: March 22, 2016, 04:59:33 AM »
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  • Why leave out Africa?
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    Is consecrating a 4th Bishop a NECESSITY?
    « Reply #2 on: March 22, 2016, 05:04:53 AM »
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    Why leave out Africa?


    In terms of land mass, Europe is tiny compared to North America, South America and Asia.  So I guess the Bishop in Europe has to take care of Africa as well.

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    « Reply #3 on: March 22, 2016, 05:37:27 AM »
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  • North America has the largest number of "traditional Catholics" per capita, doesn't it?  Yet none of the three bishops is North American.  

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    « Reply #4 on: March 22, 2016, 10:09:34 AM »
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    North America has the largest number of "traditional Catholics" per capita, doesn't it?  Yet none of the three bishops is North American.  


    France has that claim to fame.

    Its obvious we need younger Bishops, as when +ABL chose his four men.

    Besides, we'll be going underground soon, so the Church could use a Tridentine Bishop on every continent.
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    Is consecrating a 4th Bishop a NECESSITY?
    « Reply #5 on: March 22, 2016, 01:24:04 PM »
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  • I want Fr Juan Ortiz to be consecrated bishop for North America.  He has many qualifications but one thing that would make him a good candidate (in addition to the fact he is fluent in English, Spanish, and French) is that he isn't restricted by organizational obligations (he doesn't have his own chapel, school, or congregation) so he is free to travel.  He can serve Canada, US, and Mexico.


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    « Reply #6 on: March 23, 2016, 04:22:03 AM »
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  • Quote from: TheRealMcCoy
    I want Fr Juan Ortiz to be consecrated bishop for North America.  He has many qualifications but one thing that would make him a good candidate (in addition to the fact he is fluent in English, Spanish, and French) is that he isn't restricted by organizational obligations (he doesn't have his own chapel, school, or congregation) so he is free to travel.  He can serve Canada, US, and Mexico.



    May I ask, how old is Fr.Juan Ortiz?

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    « Reply #7 on: March 23, 2016, 06:12:55 AM »
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  • Rev. Fr. Zendejas would also be a perfect candidate …he has been the special instrument of grace that Our Lord has used to support several parishes across North America.  

    This holy priest inspires everyone around him; especially the love/true devotion he has for Our Lady...no doubt God may need his talents for this special mission in the near future.

     :pray:


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    « Reply #8 on: March 23, 2016, 09:56:27 AM »
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    North America has the largest number of "traditional Catholics" per capita, doesn't it?  Yet none of the three bishops is North American.  


    Are you suggesting that the 4th Bishop should be of an American or Canadian origin or do you mean that a 4th Bishop should be stationed in North America, regardless of origin or nationality?

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    « Reply #9 on: March 23, 2016, 03:17:47 PM »
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  • Quote from: NatusAdMaiora
    Rev. Fr. Zendejas would also be a perfect candidate …he has been the special instrument of grace that Our Lord has used to support several parishes across North America.  

    This holy priest inspires everyone around him; especially the love/true devotion he has for Our Lady...no doubt God may need his talents for this special mission in the near future.

     :pray:


    I second this! Likely, everyone who knows Fr. Zendejas would agree with this.
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    « Reply #10 on: March 24, 2016, 04:15:51 AM »
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    May I ask, how old is Fr.Juan Ortiz?


    Fr Ortiz was ordained in 1984 by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre. Thirty-two years a priest.
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    « Reply #11 on: March 25, 2016, 03:08:22 AM »
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    May I ask, how old is Fr.Juan Ortiz?


    Fr Ortiz was ordained in 1984 by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre. Thirty-two years a priest.


    Assuming that Fr.Ortiz was ordained at the age of 30, then he must be around in the early 60's.  When the Chastisement (War..etc) comes, life will be much harder, disease and starvation will be common. I have doubts on whether elderly Bishops can endure such harsh conditions. We should also consider the "Physical Survivability" aspect as well don't you think?

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    « Reply #12 on: March 25, 2016, 03:22:14 AM »
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  • 'My Grace is sufficient'  'I will not leave you orphans'.