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Offline MaterDominici

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Is "Friends of the SSPX" a Dead Concept?
« on: October 31, 2018, 10:42:03 PM »
In the past, certain independent chapels were considered to be "friends of the SSPX". They were run and operated by non-SSPX priests, but were "recommended" by the SSPX. Oftentimes, their faithful would receive sacraments -- Confirmation in particular -- at the nearest SSPX chapel. The information for these chapels was often listed on SSPX websites.

Are there any such chapels existing today? Are there any Masses that the SSPX officially approves for recommendation other than those said by SSPX priests?
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Offline Neil Obstat

Re: Is "Friends of the SSPX" a Dead Concept?
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2018, 01:13:39 AM »
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Msgr. Perez at Our Lady Help of Christians in Garden Grove has in the past been "friend of the SSPX" in Arcadia, CA.
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He has been sending his candidates for Confirmation there every time they offer Confirmation.
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SSPX bishops have come to Fr. Melito's Chapel in Glendale/Burbank in the past, and Fr. Perez had been in the Sanctuary during Mass.
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But there has not been any Confirmations held at OLHC, GG. Bishop Richard Williamson has visited, but not to confirm.
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Fr. Nicholas Gruner had celebrated Mass there at OLHC.
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Msgr. Perez is outspokenly opposed to the FSSP, since he says they are "the enemy" and are here "to shut us down."
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He is happy to say we have the ability to oppose Vat.II and the Newmass, while the FSSP does not, just like it were Indult.
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However, in my experience, from what I've heard, they don't have much to say lately in Arcadia against the Newmass and Vat.II.
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I get the impression that Arcadia SSPX recommends OLHC, but I have no idea, for certain.
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I know of trad Catholics who go to Mass at Arcadia and at St. Vitus in San Fernando (FSSP), but will not go to OLHC in GG. 
Not sure why, though.
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Offline Maria Regina

Re: Is "Friends of the SSPX" a Dead Concept?
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2018, 01:25:17 AM »
Father Joseph Melito passed away two years ago, He has been greatly missed.


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Father Joseph M. Melito  passed away on September 7, 2015 at the age of 67. He had been ill for some time and the chapel he was renting had been closed and sold. Father became a traditionalist in the 70’s and eventually established a chapel in Glendale, California and named it the Archangel Gabriel. Father Melito was also a Chaplin for the Los Angeles Police department.

A funeral Mass was said on September 19 at Our Lady of the Angels Church in Arcadia, CA. an SSPX Church.

There are some families who attended Mass in Father Melito's chapel, but who will not attend those of Father Perez apparently because they question his Holy Orders. Was Father Perez ever conditionally ordained?
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Offline Neil Obstat

Re: Is "Friends of the SSPX" a Dead Concept?
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2018, 03:21:13 AM »
Quote from: Maria Regina on November 01, 2018, 01:25:17 AM
Father Joseph Melito passed away two years ago, He has been greatly missed.


There are some families who attended Mass in Father Melito's chapel, but who will not attend those of Father Perez apparently because they question his Holy Orders. Was Father Perez ever conditionally ordained?
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Would that include your family, Maria Regina?
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When Fr. Schell started looking for someone to be his successor, he interviewed no small number of priests.
Fr. Schell was trained a Jesuit, which means 12 years of seminary. How many years have those you've heard questioning had?
Out of all the candidates, he chose Fr. Perez, and Fr. Schell never explained there was any need for conditional re-ordination.
Fr. Joseph Melito told everyone at his Chapel that only ordained priests and kings of Catholic nations were allowed in the sanctuary during Mass.
That is, unless they're acolytes or altar boys acting as acolytes.
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Fr. Perez was a regular attendant, who took his place in the sanctuary with other priests.
I asked Fr. Melito and he told me in person he had no doubts about Fr. Perez' ordination.
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Why didn't these families have "doubts" about Fr. Melito's ordination? Was he conditionally ordained? Or didn't you ask them that?
So maybe your "some families who attended Mass in Fr. Melito's Chapel" weren't paying attention.
Or maybe they're paying attention to schismatics who like to spread rumors.
I've run into sedevacantists who love to harp on Msgr. Perez' ordination, about which, BTW, they know nothing.
Are you a sedevacantist too, Maria Regina?
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Offline Maria Regina

Re: Is "Friends of the SSPX" a Dead Concept?
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2018, 03:55:07 AM »
Quote from: Neil Obstat on November 01, 2018, 03:21:13 AM
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Would that include your family, Maria Regina?
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When Fr. Schell started looking for someone to be his successor, he interviewed no small number of priests.
Fr. Schell was trained a Jesuit, which means 12 years of seminary. How many years have those you've heard questioning had?
Out of all the candidates, he chose Fr. Perez, and Fr. Schell never explained there was any need for conditional re-ordination.
Fr. Joseph Melito told everyone at his Chapel that only ordained priests and kings of Catholic nations were allowed in the sanctuary during Mass.
That is, unless they're acolytes or altar boys acting as acolytes.
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Fr. Perez was a regular attendant, who took his place in the sanctuary with other priests.
I asked Fr. Melito and he told me in person he had no doubts about Fr. Perez' ordination.
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Why didn't these families have "doubts" about Fr. Melito's ordination? Was he conditionally ordained? Or didn't you ask them that?
So maybe your "some families who attended Mass in Fr. Melito's Chapel" weren't paying attention.
Or maybe they're paying attention to schismatics who like to spread rumors.
I've run into sedevacantists who love to harp on Msgr. Perez' ordination, about which, BTW, they know nothing.
Are you a sedevacantist too, Maria Regina?
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I asked that question about conditional ordination simply because others have expressed doubts about Msgr. Perez' ordination, and I wanted clarification.
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OLHC is too far for us to travel, but we have referred others to OLHC because they live closer to his parish. Sadly, they went once or twice but did not want to go back. Instead, they attend the novus ordo or indult masses. These are the same folks who will phone me regularly and complain bitterly about the novus ordo, the clown masses, Francis' antics, etc. Yet they will not return to OLHC because the priests at the novus ordo parishes tell them that Father Perez is not in communion with Rome.
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And around and around we go. Lately, these N.O. priests have told them not to gossip about Francis because what one hears about Francis from the main stream media (MSM) is anti-Catholic gossip.
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You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make him drink.
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And, no, I am not a sedevacantist.
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