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Offline Incredulous

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Re: Seminarian dismissed from Econe
« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2018, 10:55:48 PM »
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    • Wasn't it Fr. Griego who expelled (4) SSPX senior seminarians on the same day, when he was rector of the Australian seminary?



    I believe his line was, "It is my grace of state" that I know you men don't have vocations".

    He never gave them a reason for their expulsion, but obviously he had received orders from Menzingen.

    It seems the true reason for the removal of the seminarians was because they were intellectuals, asked too many questions and weren't afraid to discuss the evils of тαℓмυdic jewery.
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    Re: Seminarian dismissed from Econe
    « Reply #16 on: May 08, 2018, 06:47:31 AM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on May 07, 2018, 10:55:48 PM
    Wasn't it Fr. Griego who expelled (4) SSPX senior seminarians on the same day, when he was rector of the Australian seminary?



    I believe his line was, "It is my grace of state" that I know you men don't have vocations".

    He never gave them a reason for their expulsion, but obviously he had received orders from Menzingen.

    It seems the true reason for the removal of the seminarians was because they were intellectuals, asked too many questions and weren't afraid to discuss the evils of тαℓмυdic jewery.
    When he was the Rector there a lady from Mumbai wrote to him seeking clarification on certain issues that troubled her, but never got an answer.
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    Offline Last Tradhican

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    Re: Seminarian dismissed from Econe
    « Reply #17 on: May 08, 2018, 07:54:18 AM »
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    • Quote from: Mr G on May 06, 2018, 04:53:10 PM
    "A seminarian who was in the 5th year at the seminary of Ecône (a few weeks away from the important step of the sub-diaconate) was, it seems, abruptly dismissed from the seminary for reasons of opposition to the rallying. 
    He is just the tip of the iceberg, the vast majority are told they do not have a vocation when they apply or during the first year. The new SSPX priests that make it to ordination are clones of Menzingen. 
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    Re: Seminarian dismissed from Econe
    « Reply #18 on: May 08, 2018, 09:53:49 AM »
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    • I dare say the model SSPX seminarian and priest have already been defined and are a far cry from those that turned their backs on the mainstream in the early days. The current crop though have undertaken their training at a time when regularisation was on the cards and it is a bit late in the day for members to start questioning the Society's changed mission. New entrants will now of course be very Rome-friendly and will be checked out for signs of rebelliousness.

    As Australia was memntioned here, I wonder how priests like Fr. Black now handle the internal changes. I remember being lectured on Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, the enemies of the Church, etc., etc., etc. when he ran England. I expect that sort of thing has been severely toned down if not deleted from the script.  
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    Re: Seminarian dismissed from Econe
    « Reply #19 on: May 09, 2018, 04:56:22 AM »
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    • Quote from: Wessex on May 08, 2018, 09:53:49 AM
    I dare say the model SSPX seminarian and priest have already been defined and are a far cry from those that turned their backs on the mainstream in the early days. The current crop though have undertaken their training at a time when regularisation was on the cards and it is a bit late in the day for members to start questioning the Society's changed mission. New entrants will now of course be very Rome-friendly and will be checked out for signs of rebelliousness.

    As Australia was memntioned here, I wonder how priests like Fr. Black now handle the internal changes. I remember being lectured on Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, the enemies of the Church, etc., etc., etc. when he ran England. I expect that sort of thing has been severely toned down if not deleted from the script.  
    This reminds me of what was reported in the book Goodbye Good Men by Michael Rose....traditional/orthodox men were discriminated against in the Novus Ordo seminaries post-Vatican II.  
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