Author Topic: Interview with SSPX (Read 579 times)

poche · « **on:** October 23, 2014, 12:00:37 AM »

Intéressant interview paru dans la site de la FSSPX

Remarques :

- qu'un prélat de l'Eglise catholique accorde un interview sur ce sujet et qu'il soit reproduit dans Porte Latine me semble significatif d'une nouvelle attitude des deux partis.
- "ne pas imposer une capitulation" : Cette affirmation est un vrai progrès.
Toute négociation est basée sur un compromis qui doit déboucher sur une entente.
Je suis certain que le pape Benoît XVI et monseigneur Fellay y étaient arrivé.

Quel est l’état des relations entre Rome et la Fraternité Sacerdotale Saint-Pie-X ?

Afin de favoriser le dépassement de toute fracture et division dans l’Église, et de guérir une blessure ressentie de manière douloureuse dans la vie ecclésiale, Benoît XVI, en 2009, a décidé de lever l’excommunication des évêques qui avaient été ordonnés de manière illicite par Mgr Lefebvre en 1988. Par cette décision, le pape entendait retirer une sanction qui rendait difficile l’ouverture d’un dialogue constructif.

La remise de l’excommunication a été une mesure disciplinaire prise pour libérer les personnes de la censure ecclésiastique la plus grave. Mais les questions doctrinales demeurent et doivent être clarifiées. Tant qu’elles ne le sont pas, la Fraternité Sacerdotale Saint-Pie X (FSSPX) n’a pas de statut canonique dans l’Église et ses ministres n’exercent pas de manière légitime leur ministère ordonné, comme l'indique la Lettre de Benoît XVI aux évêques de l’Église catholique du 10 mars 2009 (1).

C’est précisément pour dépasser les difficultés de nature doctrinale qui subsistent encore que le Saint-Siège entretient des rapports et des discussions avec la FSSPX, par le biais de la commission pontificale Ecclesia Dei. Celle-ci est étroitement liée à la Congrégation pour la doctrine de la foi, puisque le président de la commission est le préfet de la Congrégation lui-même.

Ces relations et ces échanges se poursuivent depuis l’élection du pape François. Ils aident à clarifier les positions respectives sur les sujets controversés, pour éviter les incompréhensions et les malentendus, en maintenant vif l’espoir que les difficultés empêchant encore d’atteindre la pleine réconciliation et la pleine communion avec le Siège apostolique puissent être dépassées.

http://laportelatine.org/vatican/sancti ... _fsspx.php

A rough translation says;

Interesting interview published in the website of the SSPX

Notes:

- A prelate of the Catholic Church grants interview on the subject and is reproduced in Latin Gate seems indicative of a new attitude of both parties.
- "Does not impose a surrender": This statement is true progress.
Any negotiation is based on a compromise that should lead to an agreement.
I am sure that Pope Benedict XVI and Bishop Fellay were arrived.

What is the state of relations between Rome and the Fraternity of Saint Pius X?

To promote the overcoming of all fracture and division in the Church, and to heal a wound felt so painful in ecclesial life, Benedict XVI, in 2009, decided to lift the excommunication of the bishops who had been ordained so unlawful by Archbishop Lefebvre in 1988 with this decision, the pope wished to withdraw a penalty which made it difficult to open a constructive dialogue.

The remission of the excommunication was a disciplinary measure taken to release those in the most serious of ecclesiastical censure. But the doctrinal issues remain to be clarified. As long as they are not, the Priestly Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX) has no canonical status in the Church and its ministers do not exercise legitimate way their ordained ministry, as indicated by the letter Benedict XVI to the Bishops of the Catholic Church on 10 March 2009 (1).

It is precisely to overcome the difficulties that remain doctrinal that the Holy See maintains reports and discussions with the SSPX, through the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei. This is closely related to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, as the Chairman of the Committee is the prefect of the Congregation itself.

These relationships and exchanges have continued since the election of Pope Francis. They help clarify the respective positions on controversial topics to avoid misunderstandings and miscommunications, keeping alive the hope that difficulties affecting yet to achieve full reconciliation and full communion with the Apostolic See can be exceeded.

http://www.cite-catholique.org/viewtopic.php?f=94&t=30691&start=135

Maria Auxiliadora · « **Reply #1 on:** October 23, 2014, 04:11:29 PM »

In regards to the interview:

http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/the-vatican/detail/articolo/lefebvriani-lefebvrians-lefebvrianos-37117/

10/23/2014
Lefebvrians: “Rome doesn’t plan on imposing a capitulation”

Mgr. Guido Pozzo reports on the latest developments in relations between Rome and the Society of St. Pius X
Marco Tosatti
vatican city

In an interview with authoritative French weekly magazine Famille Chrétienne, the Secretary of Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei, Guido Pozzo, discussed the state of relations between Rome and the Society of St. Pius X following Mgr. Fellay’s recent meeting with the Prefect of the Doctrine for the Faith. From the interview, it would seem that the Holy See does not intend to put any pressure on Mgr. Lefebvre’s followers but would like an agreement to be reached, although the timeframe for this is uncertain. What we are given to understand here, is that Rome intends to show greater flexibility on any aspect that does not regard doctrine.

In 2009 Benedict XVI decided to revoke the excommunication of Lefebvrian bishops who had been illicitly ordained by Mgr. Lefebvre in 1988. This was a first and essential step toward the resumption of a constructive dialogue. Just a first step, however, because there were still some big doctrinal questions which needed to be addressed. The Ecclesia Dei Commission which has close links with the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, is the main instrument in this dialogue process.

Perhaps the most interesting part of the interview is that which addressed the sticking points in said dialogue. Mgr. Pozzo underlined that “any reservations or positions the Society of St. Pius X may have regarding aspects which are not related to faith but to pastoral questions or the prudential teaching of the Magisterium do not necessarily need to withdrawn or relinquished.” Here Rome seems to be showing an attempt to alter positions expressed in the past: According to Mgr. Pozzo, the fraternity’s reservations are linked to “aspects of pastoral care or the prudential teaching of the Magisterium.” The monsignor’s statement suggests that since these criticisms and reservations are no longer labelled as “doctrinal” the Lefebvrians could legitimately continue to express them.

This approach is expressed more clearly in the following part of the interview: “The Holy See does not wish to impose a capitulation on the SSPX. On the contrary, it invites the fraternity to stand beside it within the same framework of doctrinal principles that is necessary in guaranteeing the same adhesion to the faith and Catholic doctrine on the Magisterium and the Tradition. At the same time, there is room for further reflection on the reservations the fraternity has expressed regarding certain aspects and the wording of the Second Vatican Council docuмents as well as some reforms that followed but which do not refer to subjects which are dogmatically or doctrinally indisputable.”

Finally, one other very important clarification was made: “There is no doubt that the teachings of the Second Vatican Council vary a great deal in terms of how authoritative and binding they are depending on the text. So, for example, the Lumen Gentium Constitution on the Church and the Dei Verbum on the Divine Revelation are doctrinal declarations even though no dogmatic definition was given to them”, whereas the declarations on religious freedom, non-Christian religions and the decree on ecuмenism “are authoritative and binding to a different and lesser degree.”

It is unclear how long this process is going to take: “I don’t think it is possible to say yet when this process will conclude,” Mgr. Pozzo said. Both sides are committed to taking things step by step. “There will be no unexpected shortcuts; the clearly stated aim is to promote unity through the generosity of the universal Church led by the successor of Peter.”

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