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Offline BaldwinIV

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Re: Interview with Fr. Pivert
« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2025, 03:17:46 PM »
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  • Excellent post. Do you have the full email from Menzingen that you could share?
    No, only the testimony of the crazy Novus Ordo "priest" who called Econe / Menzingen, to report our TikTok activities. I also messed up the timeline, the NO priest reporting us to Menzingen coincided with the original TikTok post, but wasn't a direct response.

    The NO priest started by claiming online that we (Resistance) are "Muttermörder" (Matriciders), since we are "killing the Mother Church" (masonic Rome). Again, they're trying to claim that they "barely tolerate" the SSPX, in order to get the SSPX "back into full communion", whatever, they don't get it. 

    He's not the smartest, poor soul. What is however interesting, is that he called Econe and they even picked up the phone (Lefebvre would have just laughed and hanged up). I usually don't like to make private chats public, but in this instance, the priest himself even gave permission (he was so proud that he could bully Econe). "A fool tells everyone he is a fool."

    Here are the chats, with translated messages below. Apparently the NO Priest didn't know the difference between "SSPX" and "SSPX Resistance" and thought calling Menzingen would have any effect.



    Blue: [...] You are labeling an inhomogenous group "matriciders", although there isn't even a consensus among our group?

    NO Priest: I will be calling the district superiors of the FSSPX tomorrow anyway. I spoke to Econe on the phone today, and they were NOT enthusiastic about it. In fact, they advised me to put an end to this business with these “youngsters.”




    Crazy NO priest: "I called Econe yesterday and they weren't very enthusiastic either, and they urgently referred me to Father Pfluger. But give him a call. I already told him your name (at least your first name). He's considering looking in the confirmation register from June 29, and since I also know your girlfriend's name, which I told him (if I'm not mistaken, she has a Turkish name (Tugce) and another name (Eva), although I wasn't sure about that, he won't have any problem. So, as I said, give him a call. I'm sure he'll be happy to hear from you."

    Blue: "Are those threats? You are welcome to point out my mistakes :)"





    Unrelated guy: Uh bro I am supposed to tell you that Michael called Econe. You should also tell the others.

    Blue: we don't really care




    Crazy NO Priest: "Today, I spoke on the phone with Father Pfluger (District Superior of the FSSPX) for an hour and honestly addressed everything, including my statements made in anger. Conclusion: All statements made on certain platforms in the name of the Society of St. Pius X are not and do not belong to their official statements! All groups or individuals acting in their name are acting without mandate or function!"


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    Anyway. After that, the "distancing" from the SSPX happened (instead of distancing themselves from this unhinged "priest", like any sane person). Oh well. Welcome to 2025, where we don't even have to hack computers to leak any E-Mails, these people are so proud of threatening us that they post it publicly. Now we have hacked leaks of clergy officials with Emoji characters in between them. I hate this timeline so much, it's not even funny anymore.

    Stay away from the Novus Ordo, stay away from the SSPX. I would puke rather than take communion from Fr. Pfluger. Poor soul, may God have mercy on him.

    Also, here is our "extremely offensive" TikTok edit (warning, don't watch, you will die instantly): https://www.tiktok.com/@777cogi777/video/7525138073311661334


    Offline girlytrad

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    Re: Interview with Fr. Pivert
    « Reply #16 on: August 17, 2025, 03:57:54 PM »
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  • It is precisely this non-Catholic attitude, condemned by today's gospel of the Pharisee and the Publican, that I despise.

    I have no problem with others making the decision that for them and their family it may be a danger to the Faith to attend the SSPX and therefore to take the decision to make a clean break with the SSPX and sanctify the Sunday by praying at home when a Resistance priest is not available.

    But those who find it necessary to call those of us in the Resistance who do not share their view, or rather, do not find it applicable to our situation, "compromisers" whom they would like to have nothing to do with, "leave us alone", should examine their consciences.

    True Catholics should be overjoyed that any soul of good will would come into their midst. Did you despise Novus Ordo Catholics coming to the Traditional Mass when you were in the SSPX?

    If you want to "preserve the Faith pure and undefiled", please tell me how I am endangering that by attending a Resistance Mass.

    Archbishop Lefebvre gave us the principle which should govern our decision in this matter: we must not put our Faith in danger. In the early days of the Novus Ordo he even permitted his seminarians to attend the New Mass on their vacations and "didn't dare" tell the faithful not to attend Mass on Sundays. His attitude - not his principles - changed with time as it became clear beyond a doubt what a grave danger to the Faith the NOM represented. Can that be said of SSPX Masses, and in all circuмstances? It is in fact arguable that it can be said of your opinion that one should avoid the SSPX like the plague. For many Resistance Catholics (if you will allow us to consider ourselves such) this would mean almost never attending Sunday Mass. In spite of all the possible ways of addressing this situation, such as those suggested by Fr Pivert, in practice it nonetheless results in many souls losing the Faith or at least drifting away. There is more than one way to put your Faith in danger.

     An attitude of humility, like the Publican's, is what we all need. Do what you need to do to keep the Faith. Consult a priest you trust. Be careful pontificating on what others should do, even if you are a priest, just as Bishop Williamson had the prudence to do. We are in a crisis, it's not always that simple.


    When priests in our ranks advise certain people to go to SSPX Masses because of "their particular circuмstances", there is no long term plan usually given. Its as if they can happily attend SSPX for the next 30 years and everything will be ok. It sounds good in the short term, but long term it is very bad advice. (Frog in boiling water)

    When people fade out in the long run from not attending Mass maybe we should ask what the root cause of that is. Its not because they do not have Mass. It is because they lack catechism and zeal. So perhaps priests should encourage that.

    Because long term attending the SSPX, just like attending the Novus Ordo, inculcates an attitude of indifference. And this is probably the most toxic thing to a Catholic soul. The people who attend everything from SSPX to Novus Ordo, regard themselves as Catholic. They are to be commended for persevering at least. But everything else is voided. They risk falling into mortal sin for everything else except non Mass attendance. Starting with indifference to error.

    It might shock many priests reading this but please consider the profile of the person who begs you to understand their "situation" in relation to SSPX Masses. Are they not usually women? Who fear losing am ambiance of piety? Or poorly catechised laymen, who (and be really honest about this) are failing in terms of their leadership of their families or are poorly catechised? (note I said "usually" before you react)

    Dearest Fathers, you are physicians of souls. Imagine a physician has a patient entering his clinic with delusions. Is it not his duty to try to cure the root of the delusion rather than to allow the person to continue in it? There may be times when the physician should not press too hard on the delusion for fear of too strong a reaction, but that does not mean he should enter into the delusion with the patient!

    To Plenus Venter, it may have seemed that I was being harsh to all souls considering the resistance, but it was a direct response to that particular person who was being unusually stubborn, and then broadly to all those who have such an attitude.  Their very public attitude leads to scandal, in that it leads people to equivocate the SSPX with the resistance. 




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    Re: Interview with Fr. Pivert
    « Reply #17 on: August 17, 2025, 06:03:06 PM »
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  • I want to go to Heaven. I want the Faith. It doesn’t matter to me what the actual people call themselves, Resistance, Fake Resistance, Catholic Faith of Tradition, R & R, Sedevacantist, Sedeprivationists, and so forth.
    Yes, I AM a woman; one who’d like nothing more than to have a chapel where I could go every Sunday and never concern myself with whether the priest is real, the Sacraments are valid and licit, there’s a Godly bishop proclaiming the Faith in public and rebuking civil authorities when necessary, when there is a Pope in Rome who proclaims the unadulterated Catholic Faith to the world. Barring this, it’d be great to have a husband, children, extended family and Catholic friends with which I’m surrounded. God has apparently willed I have none of these. I do the best I can, solo. As to Mass, Sacraments, and priest, I take what little I can get when it presents itself. If an SSPX priest, ordained by Bp. W. is willing drive to hear my Confession and give Communion, I’m availing myself of the opportunity. Whatever his sins of affiliation with this bishop or that, leaning towards Sede or not, membership in a priestly fraternity, be it SSPX, SSPV, CMRI, or whatever, these are not matters of Faith or morals. If he’s a notorious public sinner, then no, I don’t want him. If such is not the case, he takes the “wrong” stand on clerical matters, matters upon which I am unqualified to judge and about which many holy priests, religious, and bishops cannot agree, I am not guilty of whatever errors he may turn out to hold. If the form, matter, and intention are correct, and he is willing to assist me, I’d be a fool to refuse. 

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    Re: Interview with Fr. Pivert
    « Reply #18 on: August 17, 2025, 06:52:03 PM »
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  • Quote from: Seraphina 2025-08-17, 4:03:06 PM
    I want to go to Heaven. I want the Faith. It doesn’t matter to me what the actual people call themselves, Resistance, Fake Resistance, Catholic Faith of Tradition, R & R, Sedevacantist, Sedeprivationists, and so forth.
    Yes, I AM a woman; one who’d like nothing more than to have a chapel where I could go every Sunday and never concern myself with whether the priest is real, the Sacraments are valid and licit, there’s a Godly bishop proclaiming the Faith in public and rebuking civil authorities when necessary, when there is a Pope in Rome who proclaims the unadulterated Catholic Faith to the world. Barring this, it’d be great to have a husband, children, extended family and Catholic friends with which I’m surrounded. God has apparently willed I have none of these. I do the best I can, solo. As to Mass, Sacraments, and priest, I take what little I can get when it presents itself. If an SSPX priest, ordained by Bp. W. is willing drive to hear my Confession and give Communion, I’m availing myself of the opportunity. Whatever his sins of affiliation with this bishop or that, leaning towards Sede or not, membership in a priestly fraternity, be it SSPX, SSPV, CMRI, or whatever, these are not matters of Faith or morals. If he’s a notorious public sinner, then no, I don’t want him. If such is not the case, he takes the “wrong” stand on clerical matters, matters upon which I am unqualified to judge and about which many holy priests, religious, and bishops cannot agree, I am not guilty of whatever errors he may turn out to hold. If the form, matter, and intention are correct, and he is willing to assist me, I’d be a fool to refuse.
    Seraphina, your longing for Heaven and the Faith is real, but settling for any priest who is compromised with the Conciliar Church, its errors, or false positions such as Sedevacantism is spiritually dangerous. Such compromise takes the fight out of the soul, weakens supernatural faith, and is not merely a matter of clerical politics; it is a matter of Faith and morals. You are not abandoned. When sacraments are doubtful or compromised, spiritual communions, acts of perfect contrition, and the rosary bring abundant grace, often more than compromised clergy could give. Better to suffer without sacraments for a time than to risk betraying the Faith. Hold fast, for Our Lady promised, “In the end, my Immaculate Heart will triumph.” Viva Cristo Rey.


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    Re: Interview with Fr. Pivert
    « Reply #19 on: August 17, 2025, 07:51:27 PM »
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  • Seraphina, your longing for Heaven and the Faith is real, but settling for any priest who is compromised with the Conciliar Church, its errors, or false positions such as Sedevacantism is spiritually dangerous. Such compromise takes the fight out of the soul, weakens supernatural faith, and is not merely a matter of clerical politics; it is a matter of Faith and morals. You are not abandoned. When sacraments are doubtful or compromised, spiritual communions, acts of perfect contrition, and the rosary bring abundant grace, often more than compromised clergy could give. Better to suffer without sacraments for a time than to risk betraying the Faith. Hold fast, for Our Lady promised, “In the end, my Immaculate Heart will triumph.” Viva Cristo Rey.
    Benedikt, are you male or female? Married? Have Catholic family and friends? How many years have you gone without any Mass, Sacraments, or priest, and with no social support other than unknown people online? Can you travel? Move? Because I cannot do either any longer. I’ve neither the money nor the health. 
    Let me guess, you’re a disciple of Fr. Hewko? 


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    Re: Interview with Fr. Pivert
    « Reply #20 on: August 17, 2025, 08:09:17 PM »
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  • Quote from: Seraphina 2025-08-17, 5:51:27 PM
    Benedikt, are you male or female? Married? Have Catholic family and friends? How many years have you gone without any Mass, Sacraments, or priest, and with no social support other than unknown people online? Can you travel? Move? Because I cannot do either any longer. I’ve neither the money nor the health.
    Let me guess, you’re a disciple of Fr. Hewko?
    My personal situation is irrelevant. The truth of the Faith and the spiritual crisis we face does not depend on age, health, or location. I am very blessed to receive the sacraments at least once a year. Many have gone ten to fifteen years without them, and this is nothing compared to the Japanese martyrs who preserved the Faith without sacraments for over two hundred years. This position is held by many priests loyal to Archbishop Lefebvre, not only Father Hewko. Father Pivert is another example, even if you do not agree with him. What matters is prayer, vigilance, and fidelity to Christ, and guiding souls who are spiritually blind wherever we are. But you have already made your position clear: you are not part of this SSPX resistance.


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    Re: Interview with Fr. Pivert
    « Reply #21 on: August 17, 2025, 08:52:32 PM »
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  • This is not Japan, not yet! 
    Which is “this” resistance? 
    I guess you’re right. 
    “That” resistance doesn’t claim me, either.
    And that’s okay. 
    The only earthly group to which I’ve ever firmly belonged is my family, 
    but they’re all gone, now. 
    Schools, jobs, clubs, associations, friends, they’re all here today, gone tomorrow. 
    It’s best to keep to oneself and to God.

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    Re: Interview with Fr. Pivert
    « Reply #22 on: August 17, 2025, 09:37:49 PM »
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  • Where I live, the Ukranian Catholic churches are common as the Novus Ordo ones but they seem as modernist as the NO. SSPX missions are slowly increasing but they are still sparse. SSPX Resistance is basically non-existent as well as Sede chapels. By the direction the Neo-SSPX is heading, there might be a bigger Resistance movement but many missions are already struggling financially to operate. And many parishioners drive many hours to get there. Personally, I've seen so much compromise in the SSPX already and I left the NO two years ago. 

    We also tell people to move near a TLM so they're closer to the sacraments but what happens if the TLM is compromised (like the SSPX) or it gets shut down (indult, FSSP)? I can imagine that it would be harder for someone who grew up attending the SSPX to join the Resistance because it'll be a loss of community, being comfortable, closer driving distance, etc. 


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    Re: Interview with Fr. Pivert
    « Reply #23 on: August 17, 2025, 09:44:11 PM »
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  • Quote from: Seraphina 2025-08-17, 6:52:32 PM
    This is not Japan, not yet!
    Which is “this” resistance?
    I guess you’re right.
    “That” resistance doesn’t claim me, either.
    And that’s okay.
    The only earthly group to which I’ve ever firmly belonged is my family,
    but they’re all gone, now.
    Schools, jobs, clubs, associations, friends, they’re all here today, gone tomorrow.
    It’s best to keep to oneself and to God.
    This is spiritually worse than Japan. Back then, the faithful had no priests or sacraments, yet never wavered. Today, Catholics have Mass and the sacraments but often choose comfort and compromise over fidelity.


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    Re: Interview with Fr. Pivert
    « Reply #24 on: August 17, 2025, 10:00:47 PM »
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  • This is spiritually worse than Japan. Back then, the faithful had no priests or sacraments, yet never wavered. Today, Catholics have Mass and the sacraments but often choose comfort and compromise 
    I hardly call three to four home visits per year, no Mass, comfort and compromise. I just hope I went often enough years ago when I could still travel long hours, work long hours, and get by on little to no sleep. Those weekday Masses, Confession, Communion, catechism vanished with a change of management, shall we say. 

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    Re: Interview with Fr. Pivert
    « Reply #25 on: August 17, 2025, 11:56:26 PM »
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  • When priests in our ranks advise certain people to go to SSPX Masses because of "their particular circuмstances", there is no long term plan usually given. Its as if they can happily attend SSPX for the next 30 years and everything will be ok. It sounds good in the short term, but long term it is very bad advice. (Frog in boiling water)

    When people fade out in the long run from not attending Mass maybe we should ask what the root cause of that is. Its not because they do not have Mass. It is because they lack catechism and zeal. So perhaps priests should encourage that.

    Because long term attending the SSPX, just like attending the Novus Ordo, inculcates an attitude of indifference. 
    When Resistance Catholics attending SSPX Masses become indifferent and like the 'frog in boiling water', we should likewise ask what the root cause of that is. It's not because they are attending the Traditional Mass and frequenting the sacraments and hearing the almost exclusively edifying sermons (that is still the rule in the SSPX, perhaps not in Germany?). No, it is for the reason you cite for your cause: they lack catechism and zeal... and they have not understood the crisis.

    Fr Pivert answers the question "And what do you think are the biggest errors of the society of St. Pius X?" with this succinct response: "The silence. And that's what it is very difficult to understand, because silence is not an error. It is not a fighting error. It's an easier way to fall in error when you do not know it.". Now whether you resist the slide of the SSPX by continuing to attend and voicing your concerns, or by staying at home and depriving yourself of the sacraments, the same void exists, the same silence - unless you actively take measures to educate yourself about the crisis. And this is the answer to this problem, understanding the battle we are in. You can just as well go off the rails with any other Resistance priest as you can with the SSPX. Just look at what has transpired already in the Resistance in less than 15 years...  

    It is a grave sin to not fulfill your Sunday obligation. It requires a proportionate reason not to do so. Be careful trying to bind consciences. Catholic Tradition does not need more popes making dogmas where they do not exist. Prudential decisions change with circuмstances. Leave it to directors of souls.


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    Re: Interview with Fr. Pivert
    « Reply #26 on: August 18, 2025, 12:43:07 AM »
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  • Quote from: Plenus Venter 2025-08-17, 9:56:26 PMQuote from: Plenus Venter 2025-08-17, 9:56:26 PM
    When Resistance Catholics attending SSPX Masses become indifferent and like the 'frog in boiling water', we should likewise ask what the root cause of that is. It's not because they are attending the Traditional Mass and frequenting the sacraments and hearing the almost exclusively edifying sermons (that is still the rule in the SSPX, perhaps not in Germany?). No, it is for the reason you cite for your cause: they lack catechism and zeal... and they have not understood the crisis.

    Fr Pivert answers the question "And what do you think are the biggest errors of the society of St. Pius X?" with this succinct response: "The silence. And that's what it is very difficult to understand, because silence is not an error. It is not a fighting error. It's an easier way to fall in error when you do not know it.". Now whether you resist the slide of the SSPX by continuing to attend and voicing your concerns, or by staying at home and depriving yourself of the sacraments, the same void exists, the same silence - unless you actively take measures to educate yourself about the crisis. And this is the answer to this problem, understanding the battle we are in. You can just as well go off the rails with any other Resistance priest as you can with the SSPX. Just look at what has transpired already in the Resistance in less than 15 years... 

    It is a grave sin to not fulfill your Sunday obligation. It requires a proportionate reason not to do so. Be careful trying to bind consciences. Catholic Tradition does not need more popes making dogmas where they do not exist. Prudential decisions change with circuмstances. Leave it to directors of souls.
    I’m sorry, but you cannot claim to be part of the Resistance while attending the Neo-SSPX. Resistance is defined by fidelity to the uncompromised traditional Faith and priesthood, not by labels or self-identification within a compromised framework. Even if you see yourself as a “conservative” Neo-SSPX member, attending a community that has submitted in practice and spirit to conciliar errors undermines your witness, weakens faith, and saps zeal. Claiming Resistance while participating in this framework is a contradiction that cannot be reconciled without abandoning the true fight for the Faith.

    The argument that any spiritual tepidity among SSPX attendees comes only from personal lack of zeal or catechesis is gravely mistaken. The danger is structural, doctrinal, and spiritual. Since 2012, the Neo-SSPX has submitted in practice and spirit to Vatican II, which contains grave errors and heresies on religious liberty, ecuмenism, and the nature of the Church. Exposure to this conciliar spirit is not neutral; it slowly erodes faith, saps courage, and takes the fight out of the faithful, leaving them vulnerable to spiritual decline. No matter how frequent the Mass, how edifying the sermons, or how diligent the individual, the fruits are rotten. Tepidity is not personal weakness; it is the natural consequence of being immersed in a community that silently accepts error and abandons the uncompromised battle for the Faith. Catholics who truly wish to preserve their faith, zeal, and salvation must avoid the Neo-SSPX entirely and seek only priests and communities that transmit the traditional priesthood and doctrine intact, as +Archbishop Lefebvre upheld. To attend is not merely imprudent, it is a grave danger to one’s spiritual life, a slow weakening that cannot be remedied by sermons or habit alone. The faithful must recognize the stakes: the Neo-SSPX is not a safe harbor, but a vessel adrift in conciliar heresy and error, and only unwavering fidelity to uncompromised Tradition preserves the soul, the Faith, and the courage to fight for Christ and His Church.



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    Re: Interview with Fr. Pivert
    « Reply #27 on: August 18, 2025, 10:12:36 AM »
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  • Who claims to be “part of the resistance?” And what IS the Resistance, exactly? People claiming the label don’t agree with each other, often to the point of despising one another. 
    It is clearly not an organization in the sense of having a leader, a chain of command, or even a membership list.
    So far as I can see, the resistance is a very loosely affiliated random assortment of bishops, priests, laity whose only common link is having somehow once been connected to the SSPX until 2012 and later. 
    Today there are cults of personality, cults of slightly tighter organizations that at least have names, and individual laity who’ve attached themselves in some way to a person or a group, but who come and go. It’s like an amoeba, a blob that slides, expands and contracts, changes shape and depth, divides and reabsorbs pieces at random. 
    Bp. W. declined to lead this “resistance” foreseeing this in advance.
    He analogized it to “herding cats.”  
    I think of it as attempting to pick up a raw egg from a marble countertop. 
    It doesn’t work. 
    The Church has not failed for that is impossible.
    What has failed is the human at the head and most of his subordinates on down.
    Without Catholic leadership, the whole Body suffers.
    Until there is a Catholic Pope who acts like a Catholic Pope on the Chair of Peter, 
    things will not work. 
    When those calling themselves Traditional Catholics backbite and devour one another, the prudent person neither bites nor allows himself to be devoured.
    That is why I have no problem being told, “You aren’t part of the Resistance.” 
    I’m also not novus ordo, indult, motu, FSSP, SSPX, or whatever.
    I consider myself the dog beside the Master’s table, eating up whatever morsels of food fall my way. 🐕 

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  • Quote from: Seraphina 2025-08-18, 8:12:36 AM
    Who claims to be “part of the resistance?” And what IS the Resistance, exactly? People claiming the label don’t agree with each other, often to the point of despising one another.
    It is clearly not an organization in the sense of having a leader, a chain of command, or even a membership list.
    So far as I can see, the resistance is a very loosely affiliated random assortment of bishops, priests, laity whose only common link is having somehow once been connected to the SSPX until 2012 and later.
    Today there are cults of personality, cults of slightly tighter organizations that at least have names, and individual laity who’ve attached themselves in some way to a person or a group, but who come and go. It’s like an amoeba, a blob that slides, expands and contracts, changes shape and depth, divides and reabsorbs pieces at random.
    Bp. W. declined to lead this “resistance” foreseeing this in advance.
    He analogized it to “herding cats.” 
    I think of it as attempting to pick up a raw egg from a marble countertop.
    It doesn’t work.
    The Church has not failed for that is impossible.
    What has failed is the human at the head and most of his subordinates on down.
    Without Catholic leadership, the whole Body suffers.
    Until there is a Catholic Pope who acts like a Catholic Pope on the Chair of Peter,
    things will not work.
    When those calling themselves Traditional Catholics backbite and devour one another, the prudent person neither bites nor allows himself to be devoured.
    That is why I have no problem being told, “You aren’t part of the Resistance.”
    I’m also not novus ordo, indult, motu, FSSP, SSPX, or whatever.
    I consider myself the dog beside the Master’s table, eating up whatever morsels of food fall my way. 🐕
    The Resistance is fidelity to the pre-2012 SSPX and +Archbishop Lefebvre’s uncompromised mission: the traditional Mass, sacraments, and doctrine. It resists the Neo-SSPX, which has submitted in practice and spirit to conciliar errors. Disputes, loose affiliations, or personality conflicts do not change this reality. Sitting on the sidelines or “taking morsels” from compromised communities is spiritually dangerous. True Resistance is principled, not personal, and those who wish to preserve the Faith must avoid the Neo-SSPX entirely and seek priests who transmit Tradition intact.


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  • Morsels are better than starvation. No one becomes a modernist by receiving Communion a few times a year. It’s not as if the priest gives modernism to me on the Host! In fact, I can’t recall the subject ever coming up. It’s one thing to die for Christ, quite another to die because Bp. Fellay decided to go against Archbishop LeFebvre. Prospective is needed. I’m not recommending anyone else copy me. I’m doing as best I can under my circuмstances.