Fr. Grosso is not with any of the resistance priests. He is with a group that attacks the resistance as far as I know. The same goes for Fr. Meramo
Fr. Méramo started to resist Bp. Fellay's betrayal long before any of the commonly considered resister priests? Who dare to say Fr. Méramo is not part of the so-called resistance. Who decides who is and who is not part of the so-called resistance?
Even Bp. Williamson had to admit that Fr. Méramo and some others were resisting Bp. Fellay´s betrayal before he and other priests started to do it.
Fr. Méramo was expelled from the SSPX in 2008 or 2009.
Fr. Grosso decided to join the so-called resistance in 2010, and the group you refer to does not attack the resistance, but disagrees in many things with many priests that resisted somehow Bp. Fellay.
So, again, who decides what the resistance is and who belongs to it? Fr. Pfeiffer seems to disagree with Bp. Williamson and Fr. Zendejas. Fr. Meramo and Fr. Ceriani disagree with Bp. Williamson.
That's putting it lightly. This time last year Fr. Ceriani was obsessed with Bishop Williamson in his criticisms. Bishop Williamson could hardly mutter a word in a conference and Fr. Ceriani was writing a new blog entry for Radio whatever. He still reposts a Kyrie Eleison about every month knit-picking every word. Even many of the faithful followers of the blog became nauseated with his constant criticisms of the Bishop. He really, doesn't seem to have anything else to talk about. And in doing this they publicly insult plenty of people calling them the flaccid resistance and a bunch of other terms they made up. That pretty much would say that they are not part of the resistance more so than anything. To top it all off they accuse Bishop Williamson of heresy, being a mason, being an English agent, and a list of other insults. Their purpose for existing is to attack Bishop Williamson. They depend on no bishop, so naturally, they have no seminary and are not gaining vocations in this much needed crisis in the Church and shortage of priests. Granted the complete counter-productiveness of this group (3 priests?), and add that to the fact that Fr. Ceriani was not long ago one of the sharpest anti-sedevacantists, one would be justified in wondering of Ceriani has not been set up as a sort of opposition in Latin America by Menzingen. No doubt Menzingen pays very close attention to this situation. Fr. Ceriani "attacks who would be his friends", and most unnecessarily, since as Papal Supremacy has pointed out, sedevacantists are working together with the resistance. So what is their real beef? They don't have one. Let's not deceive ourselves.
You are not telling the truth: Fr. Ceriani was not anti-sedevacantist. But that is not what this thread is about.
Centro, you are missing the point completely. We are not discussing who agrees with Bp. Williamson nor who agrees with you. Frs. Ceriani, Meramo, Turco and Grosso are in the so-called resistance long before 2012. Nobody has expelled them from it, as far as I know (and I would like to know who could do so).
So are you accusing me of lying, and if so be precise. Here in Brazil, everyone has read the docuмent from Fr. Ceriani saying that Pope Paul IV's cuм Ex Apostolatus Oficio was now defunt, even though it was promulgated the same as Quo Primum, IN PERPETUITY.
I have read it too. That docuмent does not make the author an anti-sedevacantist. So, your argument is null.
I don't know where you have been, but Fr. Ceriani did more against the sedevacantists here in Latin America than any priest, probably ever. They still have his docuмents in the Benedictine Holy Cross Monastery, so effectually, the biggest Spanish-speaking living sedevacantist priest is also being taught to today by Traditionalists as being the strongest to ever argue against Sedevacantism. Go figure.
I have been in the world, just like anybody else. You are trying to probe Fr. Ceriani was anti-sedevacantist. He was not. But that is not what this thread is about. Even is he was anti-sedevacantist, that does not mean he is not part of the so-called resistance.
Another thing is that sedevacantists, such as all the priests you name (as far as I know) refuse to be associated with the recognize and resist crowd. So saying that these priests are resisting is a little off to say the least. It's not that anybody has kicked them out of the "resistance". It's that they only serve to cause confusion and attack those decent priests who are resisting, so the best thing to do is ignore them. The resistance isn't something that anybody could expel them from. That just serves to show how little you know of the resistance.
No, they do not refuse to be associated with the R&R crowd. They do refuse to be associated with those who, to their eyes, have not taken a clear position against Bp. Fellay and the modernism. No one of those who have follow these priests can say they did not resist Bp. Fellay's betrayal and still oppose to it.
I would be willing to bet that 8 out of the last 10 posts on RC by Fr. Ceriani were about Bishop Williamson, if not all ten, which is probably the case. Only a lunatic would rave on about Bishop Williamson in every single post and sermon. It's nuts.
Again, this argument is null, since it does not probe Fr. Ceriani is opposing Bp. Fellay's betrayal. You might not like what he says, but that does not mean he is not part of the resistance.
So let me put it in bold for you.
Yes, Fr. Ceriani published the most anti-sedevacantist docuмent debunking the popes ability to promulgate any docuмent IN PERPETUITY, namely cuм Ex Apostolatus Officio.
No, he did not. Being sedeplenist is not the same than being anti-sedevacantist.
No, Fr. Ceriani does not have a bishop whom he sends his faitful to for confirmation nor young men with vocations.
He does not have a cardinal nor a pope on his side. That is, again, a null argument.
Yes, Fr. Ceriani does indeed publish frequently and consistently knit-pick attacks on Bishop Williamson monthly.
Again, your argument is null.
Yes, Fr. Ceriani does publish texts attacking the resistance as being the flaccid resistance.
No, he writes against what he disagrees with. That is not attacking the so-called resistance.
Yes, Fr. Ceriani is a rabid sedevacantist
And, who said the so-called resistance is formed exclusively by sedeplenists?
So, Adolph can you disprove any of these statements?
Yes, I can.
Can you come forth and demonstrate how it is that I am a liar?
I never called you a liar and I am not (and never was) interested in demonstrate you are.
Can you explain why it is that you deliberately don't attend the Masses of Resistance priests even when they offer Mass in your area?
Again, you are not telling the truth. But again, I am not calling you a liar.
Do you really want to continue this discussion?
No, I do not really want to. But I will if I have to, in order to defend the truth.
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