Author Topic: Running an experiment on the SSPX (Read 3711 times)

richard · « **Reply #10 on:** July 15, 2015, 04:19:24 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

I'm going to address some of his points here:

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Dear lost and confused soul who wanders away from his Heavenly Father's Home, the Catholic Church,

So the SSPX is the Church now. At least no one can claim that the SSPX thinks they are the Church! But you're right -- we're not in communion with Bishop Fellay (the Pope?) which puts us outside of God's church (the SSPX?).

So many lies and calumny the work of the Archbishop! You are like the Protestants before you. You have no authority and no claim to injustice against you from any authorities in Church much less from the superiors of the Archbishop's original pious union of Apostolic life duely erected in the Catholic Church under Bl. Paul VI (a martyr, I believe).

Blessed Paul VI? A martyr? What have you been smoking?

Of course, a Society affiliated group is going to take down a video of a priest who disobeys and calumniates their associates and chosen priests and spiritual directors. That's just common sense. Just the "resistance" tries to negate all the Society's work when it is against them and their lies.

Nice calumny there against Fr. Zendejas as well as the Resistance in general, but can you substantiate any of that? What has Fr. Zendejas said against the SSPX (or any individuals) that isn't true? Some substance would be nice.

Finally, I know for a recorded fact Fr Schmidtberger was the Archbishop's first choice for his successor in the episcopate for the original four he wanted to consecrate, but he refused knowing the grave consequences and responsibility of being a bishop. Archbishop Lefebvre did not want to consecrate Williamson, and in fact, he was his last choice.

Is this the re-written history they teach nowadays? The Ministry of Truth must be working overtime. Seriously, though, this is the first time I heard that one. I bet some accordista priest just made that up to shut up a Bishop Williamson supporter who raised that point with him.

Sincerely

Finally, I know for a recorded fact Fr Schmidtberger was the Archbishop's first choice for his successor in the episcopate for the original four he wanted to consecrate, but he refused knowing the grave consequences and responsibility of being a bishop. Archbishop Lefebvre did not want to consecrate Williamson, and in fact, he was his last choice.

Is this the re-written history they teach nowadays? The Ministry of Truth must be working overtime. Seriously, though, this is the first time I heard that one. I bet some accordista priest just made that up to shut up a Bishop Williamson supporter who raised that point with him.

Awww man,I wanted to reply to this one! Beyond the shadow of a doubt the dumbest statement I've seen in a long time.

BRCatholic · « **Reply #11 on:** July 15, 2015, 04:26:31 PM »

The never ending gossip among "trads"

Did he receive the communist crucifix ?

Is he formal heretic now ?

Is he pope ?

Are the jews, the masons, the jesuits, the kings, the mob, the race ?

Solution:

"But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law. For they are unprofitable and vain. 10A man that is a heretic, after the first and second admonition, avoid: 11Knowing that he, that is such an one, is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned by his own judgment."

Matto · « **Reply #12 on:** July 15, 2015, 04:36:35 PM »

Quote from: Jonathan, quoted in Matthew's post

You have no authority and no claim to injustice against you from any authorities in Church much less from the superiors of the Archbishop's original pious union of Apostolic life duely erected in the Catholic Church under Bl. Paul VI (a martyr, I believe).

Of course, a Society affiliated group is going to take down a video of a priest who disobeys and calumniates their associates and chosen priests and spiritual directors.

First, I cannot believe a trad is calling Paul VI "blessed" and a martyr. This the man who took away the true Mass and replaced it with a protestant service. This a man who put his weight behind Vatican II and forced all of its heresies down the throats of the faithful. And I will not even mention the rumors about the sinfulness of his personal life. I am amazed.

And also, a less important point, Father Zendejas to my knowledge has not said anything publicly that could be called calumny against the SSPX. Unless you were present at one of his Masses how would you know that Father Zendejas was telling lies about the SSPX?

BRCatholic · « **Reply #13 on:** July 15, 2015, 04:54:52 PM »

Quote from: Matto

Quote from: Jonathan, quoted in Matthew's post
You have no authority and no claim to injustice against you from any authorities in Church much less from the superiors of the Archbishop's original pious union of Apostolic life duely erected in the Catholic Church under Bl. Paul VI (a martyr, I believe).

Of course, a Society affiliated group is going to take down a video of a priest who disobeys and calumniates their associates and chosen priests and spiritual directors.

First, I cannot believe a trad is calling Paul VI "blessed" and a martyr. This the man who took away the true Mass and replaced it with a protestant service. This a man who put his weight behind Vatican II and forced all of its heresies down the throats of the faithful. And I will not even mention the rumors about the sinfulness of his personal life. I am amazed.

And also, a less important point, Father Zendejas to my knowledge has not said anything publicly that could be called calumny against the SSPX. Unless you were present at one of his Masses how would you know that Father Zendejas was telling lies about the SSPX?

You better, this is the most common feature among the "trads/choir boys". You know, truth is objective but not so much for them.

"You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel."