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« on: December 29, 2013, 08:47:27 AM »
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    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

    My Avatar is Fr. Hector Bolduc. He was a faithful parish priest in De Pere, WI,


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    « Reply #1 on: December 29, 2013, 08:51:10 AM »
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    « Reply #2 on: December 29, 2013, 08:54:41 AM »
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    Just passing it on.
    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

    My Avatar is Fr. Hector Bolduc. He was a faithful parish priest in De Pere, WI,

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    « Reply #3 on: December 29, 2013, 09:02:11 AM »
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  • Anyone who posts on here risks being found out by their SSPX priest in the end.
    Myself, I dont care, because I only just started going to the SSPX and am not interested in the fight between the SSPX and the "Resistance".
    If the SSPX let me, I will join their monastery in new mexico. That is all I want. I want a fortress in which to live where I can discipline myself unto perfection and become master of myself. It is my dream for some time that I become a monk who undertakes this task. Sorry for making a personal comment referring myself, but I don't want to be banned from mass or SSPX religious orders. I also dont think the SSPX is about to go down the road of modernism, as some on here think, but then again I dont know what goes on behind the scenes.

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    « Reply #4 on: December 29, 2013, 09:08:13 AM »
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    Anyone who posts on here risks being found out by their SSPX priest in the end.
    Myself, I dont care, because I only just started going to the SSPX and am not interested in the fight between the SSPX and the "Resistance".
    If the SSPX let me, I will join their monastery in new mexico. That is all I want. I want a fortress in which to live where I can discipline myself unto perfection and become master of myself. It is my dream for some time that I become a monk who undertakes this task. Sorry for making a personal comment referring myself, but I don't want to be banned from mass or SSPX religious orders. I also dont think the SSPX is about to go down the road of modernism, as some on here think, but then again I dont know what goes on behind the scenes.


    The SSPX people around here already know who I am. I already told Fr. Rostand that I posted on Cathinfo. There's nothing he can do about it. He says it's a sin to do it, I say it's not. I guess we're at an impasse. Fr. Themann knows I post here, too. He even was "concerned" enough to ask my parents if I "still spends lots of time on the internet?" (lol really, and I don't even live with my parents.)

    I'm irrelevant. I'm just someone that won't compromise, and since I don't trust the SSPX, I'm actually taking Fr. Rostand's advice and not receiving the sacraments from them.
    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

    My Avatar is Fr. Hector Bolduc. He was a faithful parish priest in De Pere, WI,


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    « Reply #5 on: December 29, 2013, 09:24:17 AM »
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  • I think that Williamson is a complicated man.  He might not be tactful, he certaintly isn't.  But when Bishop Williamson is right he is REALLY right.  I do agree the SSPX is losing touch with Lefebvrite values and the foundation the Archbishop built it on.  The SSPXSO (SSPX of Strict Observance) as they are called are strictly observing to the SSPX way.  Compromising the Catholic faith should never be allowed.  Long live Lefebvrite values and long live the SSPX of the Strict Observance

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    « Reply #6 on: December 29, 2013, 10:22:50 AM »
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    The SSPX people around here already know who I am. I already told Fr. Rostand that I posted on Cathinfo. There's nothing he can do about it. He says it's a sin to do it, I say it's not. I guess we're at an impasse. Fr. Themann knows I post here, too. He even was "concerned" enough to ask my parents if I "still spends lots of time on the internet?" (lol really, and I don't even live with my parents.)


    Does Fr. R bother to tell you why it's a sin to post on Cathinfo?  I am already overwhelmed enough by his incompetence.  Surely he must have offered you a reason for its sinfulness.  

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    « Reply #7 on: December 29, 2013, 10:28:06 AM »
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    The SSPX people around here already know who I am. I already told Fr. Rostand that I posted on Cathinfo. There's nothing he can do about it. He says it's a sin to do it, I say it's not. I guess we're at an impasse. Fr. Themann knows I post here, too. He even was "concerned" enough to ask my parents if I "still spends lots of time on the internet?" (lol really, and I don't even live with my parents.)


    Does Fr. R bother to tell you why it's a sin to post on Cathinfo?  I am already overwhelmed enough by his incompetence.  Surely he must have offered you a reason for its sinfulness.  


    Oh because of the "rumors." We shouldn't believe anything we read from anyone on the internet unless it comes from DICI or SSPX.org. That was basically his schtick.

    (Pulling up an old thread where I recount that meeting.)
    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

    My Avatar is Fr. Hector Bolduc. He was a faithful parish priest in De Pere, WI,


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    « Reply #8 on: December 29, 2013, 10:35:49 AM »
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  • Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

    My Avatar is Fr. Hector Bolduc. He was a faithful parish priest in De Pere, WI,

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    « Reply #9 on: December 29, 2013, 11:03:14 AM »
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  • Dear Friends and Benefactors,

    Following my last letter, I would like to emphasize the dangers of the Internet.

    When we speak about the threats of the Internet, we first think of the immoralities against the virtue of purity. Obviously, this is a real danger from which everyone must protect himself. Here, however, I would like to draw attention to another risk, specifically “cyber-gossip.”

    The moral principle that we must consider in this regard is that the reputation and honor of any man, living or dead, is a spiritual good. To damage this reputation by rash judgment, detraction, or calumny is in itself a grave offense against justice and charity even though, did the injustice not regard grave matters, the fault might be venial.

    The honor of a person can be impaired by rash judgments, by assuming without sufficient foundation the fault of others, by calumny, through expressing false accusations, or by detraction, disclosing real faults and failings of others. Since rash judgment is one of the most common forms of slander, it is useful to remind ourselves that in order to avoid rash judgments, we should be careful to interpret our neighbors’ actions, sayings, writings, and thoughts in a favorable way.

    There are, on some rare occasions, reasons that may justify us to speak publicly about certain faults of others. One of the main reasons is the protection of the common good. Of course, this is exactly the argument used to “justify” most gossip and detraction, especially on the Internet. However, even when justified by good reasons, this may never be done without charity and respect. Therefore insults, slander, and boastfulness are always sinful.

    Moral theology teaches also that whoever is guilty of damaging the reputation of others without sufficient cause is obliged in justice to repair and restore that reputation.

    Further, it is not only sinful to spread rumors attacking the reputation or honor of others, but it is also sinful to listen to them or read them, especially when one makes no attempt to stop the violations of the honor of others whenever possible.

    As you can see, this problem is not new and was addressed long before the Internet even existed! The world of digital media just makes the offense easier, more widespread, more quickly spread, the damage far worse, the reparation nearly impossible, and therefore the sin of spreading or reading much graver. Allow me therefore to give a few practical resolutions:

    “Thou shalt love the Lord thy God, with thy whole heart, and with thy whole soul, and with thy whole mind, and with thy whole strength. This is the first commandment. And the second is like to it: Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. There is no other commandment greater than these” (Mk. 12:30-31). The virtue of charity must lead all our relationships in real life as well as in the virtual world of the Internet. As an act of charity, but also of justice, we ought to give a favorable interpretation to others’ actions, words, and writings, and not to condemn them immediately.                  

    The more responsibility and authority our neighbor has, the more favorably we must perceive them. It is a very modern tendency to easily condemn those with authority, leading so effortlessly toward distrust.

    On an even more practical note, everyone should forbid himself to chase these rumors, refusing or immediately deleting invitations to listen to or consult them, avoiding going to websites and blogs known for their disrespect and continual detraction, rash judgment, and calumnies. It is obviously not without sin to visit these types of media, even out of mere curiosity.

    Above all, let us all make a genuine effort to spend less time on the Internet and dedicate a little more time to prayer. A rosary or an act of charity does much more good for the restoration of all things in Christ than hours lost on the computer. Every Catholic knows this. Do we have the courage to put it into practice?

    May the Immaculate Heart of Mary help us all to follow her request. Prayers and sacrifices are the answers to our modern trials and anxieties.

    With my prayers and blessing,

    Fr. Arnaud Rostand

    http://sspx.org/en/district-superiors-letter-nov-dec

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    « Reply #10 on: December 29, 2013, 11:15:47 AM »
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  • I think contacting Fr Rusak first would be better than posting it.


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    « Reply #11 on: December 29, 2013, 12:42:45 PM »
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    Anyone who posts on here risks being found out by their SSPX priest in the end.
    Myself, I dont care, because I only just started going to the SSPX and am not interested in the fight between the SSPX and the "Resistance".
    If the SSPX let me, I will join their monastery in new mexico. That is all I want. I want a fortress in which to live where I can discipline myself unto perfection and become master of myself. It is my dream for some time that I become a monk who undertakes this task. Sorry for making a personal comment referring myself, but I don't want to be banned from mass or SSPX religious orders. I also dont think the SSPX is about to go down the road of modernism, as some on here think, but then again I dont know what goes on behind the scenes.


    The SSPX people around here already know who I am. I already told Fr. Rostand that I posted on Cathinfo. There's nothing he can do about it. He says it's a sin to do it, I say it's not. I guess we're at an impasse. Fr. Themann knows I post here, too. He even was "concerned" enough to ask my parents if I "still spends lots of time on the internet?" (lol really, and I don't even live with my parents.)

    I'm irrelevant. I'm just someone that won't compromise, and since I don't trust the SSPX, I'm actually taking Fr. Rostand's advice and not receiving the sacraments from them
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    I recently went to confession to our own Superior and told him about myself reading Cath Info, he just told me to be careful that there are some half truths on here, I asked him should I stop (to see what he would say), he said again 'just be careful'.  I thought this was good advice and fair.  He did not slam me at all for reading here.  If you joined a new group talking about the Faith it would be good advice so I think that it applies to the internet also.

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    « Reply #12 on: December 29, 2013, 01:09:11 PM »
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    Sorry people, I was trying to use a function that I thought would allow me to multi quote, guess I was wrong.  Tried to delete and was not allowed....ooops.

    That previous post was in response to  PFT on the priest who said it was a sin to post on Cath Info.


    He didn't even say it was a sin to just post (of course that would be worse to him, the way he made it sound.) He said it was a sin to even READ it.
    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

    My Avatar is Fr. Hector Bolduc. He was a faithful parish priest in De Pere, WI,

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    « Reply #13 on: December 29, 2013, 01:17:17 PM »
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    Sorry people, I was trying to use a function that I thought would allow me to multi quote, guess I was wrong.  Tried to delete and was not allowed....ooops.

    That previous post was in response to  PFT on the priest who said it was a sin to post on Cath Info.


    You were using the functions correctly, I have learned that sometimes you just get glitched, just ignore it.

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    « Reply #14 on: December 29, 2013, 01:28:42 PM »
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    I recently went to confession to our own Superior and told him about myself reading Cath Info, he just told me to be careful that there are some half truths on here, I asked him should I stop (to see what he would say), he said again 'just be careful'. I thought this was good advice and fair.


    If you are making reference to Fr Morgan, may I say the following.

    Firstly, I have met him a few times.He is a pleasant sort and no doubt one of the better SSPX priests. I was fond of Fr Morgan.

    Having said this, what are the "half truths" he speaks of?

    I spoke to a confrere of his via the telephone. I was fobbed off but pressed the cleric and outlined point (a) could be substantiated with point (b). I do not dispute being cautious with what you read on the internet but I presented the confrere of Fr M with facts. The cleric assured me he would bring it to the attention of his superior, Fr Morgan.

    There is general agreement Fr Morgan is not the same since the general chapter and is brow beaten.

    It would interesting to establish what Fr Morgan regards as "half truths".

    For example when I posted material here, I contacted the owner and assured him it was not calumny and had in mind the welfare of himself, his wife and family. I would  not have posted lies or half truths.

    I only speak for myself but am not aware of any "half truths" on Cath Info.