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Re: Indifference to the Faith at SSPX Chapels
« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2021, 07:12:56 PM »
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:laugh1: I have to ask ... do people at your church know that you think they are a bunch of degenerates? Really, I don't understand what you think you are going to accomplish by coming on here amd saying everyone else at your chapel is so wicked. Are you really some sort of saint yourself?
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Sheesh, why don't you just talk to your fellow parishioners like a human being and get to know them and try to be a good example? That might actually do some good. But getting on here and condemning everyone else at your chapel doesn't help anyone, and it actually makes you look a little bit like a pharisee.
The writer above is a parent of young adults? He never answered, that is why I asked. And where exactly have I said what my chapel is or specifically what sins are applied to whom? If I wanted to say something to someone in my chapel I would say it directly or pray for them. I have been at the same chapel for almost 20 years and I know everybody, and introduce myself to everyone that is new. My family is an example to the whole world 24/7, that is what Catholics should be. Everything I have written here is a warning to all Catholics and priests. What I write is no different than the saints quotes in the OP, warnings. Are the saints in the quotes Pharisees, are they calling everyone degenerates because they criticize bad behavior?

I have seen this before in the 1960's and I see it happening again. Is it wrong for me to warn parents that they or their are showing all the signs of walking to the precipice of the 1960's "free love fest"?

Re: Indifference to the Faith at SSPX Chapels
« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2021, 04:46:35 AM »
In my long experience, I have observed some simple signs, outward signs, indicators that something is wrong with a Catholic.  Keep in mind that all Catholics were traditional Catholics in the early 1960’s, there was only the Latin Mass in every detail and 90% of them left the Church. My simple observation has been confirmed over and over again. I will explain it:

There are three types of people that go to mass.  Those that are going up (increasing in the faith), those that are going down (losing the faith), and those that are in between, stagnant  (no longer going up and not yet falling). The danger to Catholics comes, obviously, from the bad example of the ones going down, however, the ones that are stagnant are also a danger, for they are not good examples.  

St. Francis said that as Christ is the Light, as we come closer to Him, it is as if we bring a light closer and closer to us. When we look at ourselves in the mirror, the less light we have, the less imperfections we see, the more perfect we think we are. As we add (receive) more light, we begin to see more and more of our imperfections, wrinkles, scars, pimples, blackheads, pores. In the darkness, we  are blind as to what we really are, and as we progress in the faith we slowly see more clearly.  When St. Francis died, he was convinced that he deserved Hell, and entrusted himself to God’s Mercy. He knew that he was not yet clean. ST. FRANCIS OF ASSISI!  Therefore, we all have to seek perfection before God and not just compare ourselves to those in the world around us.

To cut to the chase, (keep in mind that I am NOT here talking about new female parishioners that just came in from the world):

My simple gage that something is wrong is when I see a mother or her daughters coming to mass dressed immodestly (dresses above the knee, pencil skirts, tight form fitting clothing, in short, provocative attire to attract men). In my experience, if they come to mass dressed immodestly, then during the week, they dress just like any female of the world (short shorts, tight jeans, midriff exposed, bikinis…). Unfortunately, it never fails, it is a sign that they playing games with God, and on the inclined plain to eventually not coming to mass and all that follows.

On the other side, are the females that are new, that come immodestly dressed. If they are sincere in their search for truth, their attire will change, sometimes very quickly.

That’s it. It is a simple as that. Catholics have to be an example to the world 24/7, everywhere they go, and especially today, when there are no female examples of Catholics to be found, women are obligated to be dressed like Catholics 24/7. Today, when even Catholic priests and nuns (Novus Ordo) wear street clothes outside of their work!

Parents especially need to be on the alert for these signs in their children and nip it at the bud. For that, parents need to be prepared to explain to their daughters the why's of why a Catholic cannot dress provocatively, and not just reprimand them. The children need to believe in what they are doing, not just be obligated because Mom or Dad said so.


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Re: Indifference to the Faith at SSPX Chapels
« Reply #32 on: February 06, 2021, 05:03:04 AM »
I agree that modesty is a litmus test for the state of one's soul, which rarely fails or gives a false positive/negative.

Either you are seeking God and living for Heaven, or seeking yourself, your own pleasure, and living for this world. There really isn't any third option.

I also like your post for addressing "newbies to Tradition" -- indeed, if they are of good will, they will happily purge their wardrobe and buy new clothes, once they find out God's will. The ones who put up a fight are living for themselves, not God.

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Re: Indifference to the Faith at SSPX Chapels
« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2021, 05:07:43 AM »
What LT says is true. A few years ago at my SSPX chapel, Fr. Boyle gave maybe 10 or 12 sermons in a row about modesty, anyone could see his sermons made a noticeable difference in the way the girls dressed for Mass (not sure about outside of Mass).

I normally sit in one of the first few pews and really do not notice how anyone dresses, but I went to midnight Mass for Christmas this year and had to sit toward the back - most (not all) of the girls I saw did come to that Mass immodestly dressed, short skirts, tiny stylish jackets and tight tops - and it was only about 10 degrees outside. I can only imagine what they do at the chapels in Florida. Maybe it's been that way all along in my chapel, but sitting in front you do not really notice it. 

  

   

Re: Indifference to the Faith at SSPX Chapels
« Reply #34 on: February 06, 2021, 12:26:23 PM »
... if they are of good will, they will happily purge their wardrobe and buy new clothes, once they find out God's will. The ones who put up a fight are living for themselves, not God.
Plus, there are good girls and ladies, yet some have a weakness in that they are "followers", so they follow based on peer pressure. If the girls are dressing modestly and they get approval from Priests and men, then they get the courage to dress modesty and feel good about it. But if all they see is immodesty and then the Priests and men approve by their silence or worse, by their words and actions, then they grow weak and give in to dressing immodestly for the sake of fitting in and getting along. So for the sake of these weak gals, both Priests and dad, brothers and all men need to give the ladies of your family and parish encouragement to always dress modestly. There are those who are willing to do God's will, but they need encouragement.