Sorry to see that IA is closing, that's sad. I understand why Patricius is doing it though. I suppose the stress was too much for him. I can relate.

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IMO, it's not big deal.  

I think it is kind of a big deal, if it is because they were bullied until their right to free speech caved in.

Patricius specifically said that is not the reason he is closing the forum.  In order to keep rumors to a minimum, I am posting Patricius' posts below.

He [Patricius] first posted this:

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In the days since Gregorio's Urbi et Orbi announcement, I have patiently awaited the email from Menzingen's lawyer concerning the moderators' involvement in Ignis Ardens. As on every occasion, Menzingen has felt the need to turn the screws on us, the emails flow.

However, none have arrived. They certainly have my email address and the Dresden lawyer certainly knows it.

The only only certainty I can derive from Gregorio's original post on this thread is that his information is not first-hand, it's uncertain, appears to be a lot of third-party hearsay and not likely to be true. Menzingen knows that it cannot excommunicate anyone from the Church. But, what they can do, is forbid laity from entering the chapels they own, thus effectively denying them the sacraments. However, I have seen, nor heard, any evidence to support that this has actually happened, at least not in the GB District.

Of course, should Menzingen wish to take this up with me, then I hope they do so.

I apologise for the premature knee-jerk reaction that +Fellay was taking the piss. Gregorio's post was designed to wind people up, and I admit it had that effect on me.

He [Patricius] later posted this:

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Another important announcement:

I'm closing Ignis Ardens, permanently. None of this is good for my health and the news that Dawn Marie is the visionary is just proof to me that the Society has gone nuts.

I'll give it a week or two, then it's curtains.

This is nothing to do with Menzingen or the District Superior. It's my decision, not theirs.

I'd like to thank members past and present for all their contributions.

PATRICIUS.

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Menzingen is surely behind this.

I have petitioned Patricius to turn over administration of IA to me.

We will see.

But I bet as soon as Menzingen read tht, they put 3 lawyers on the phone to him!

I would have that site straightened up in 24 hours, with a long list of soon-to-be-banned members at the top of my list.

Then the scrubbing of accordista posts.

But of course, this is why it will not happen.

PS: They are now speculating on whether Matthew and Seraphim are the same person.  Anonymity pays dividends in this combat.

Hahaha, that's rich. Anyone with a brain and the slightest bit of ability to "intuit from posts" would be able to tell clear as day we're two different people. You're way more direct, choleric, and less wordy than me. And your posting style is totally different.

But, then again, I'm a bit of an artist with a gift for capturing the "essence" of someone/something for future use (poem, etc.).

Matthew,

Why aren't you afraid of threats from the SSPX?  

After having thought about what it would mean for, not just me but everybody else who uses IA, and to those who would love to see it close (Menzingen included), I will be keeping IA open. I'd like to thank Incredulous at CathInfo for his posts:

http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Ignis...piracy-theories

"If Patricius was exercising his moderator authority as Matthew does...."

Well, Incred, since you are the OP of that ridiculous thread, and just to prove I can "exercise my moderator authority as Matthew does...", I will do exactly as Matthew does. You're banned.

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Sorry to see that IA is closing, that's sad. I understand why Patricius is doing it though. I suppose the stress was too much for him. I can relate.

If he is going to let it be overrun with accordista trolls, then it is better to close it.

Matthew seems to have a tighter grasp on the idea that a forum should have an editorial policy consonant with the beliefs of its administrator, not just be a free for all, permitting a tiring presence of obvious agitators.

Looks like the readership of CI will be increasing soon!

How amusing. Even more consistent than Patricius' policy of letting the character assassins and apologists for Zionism and the тαℓмυd run wild on Judaica Ardens is his policy of management by personal pique.