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Offline Infirmus

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If Bishop Zendejas would have started a Seminary........
« on: April 16, 2025, 07:19:53 PM »
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    • Would we have some Priests in North America?
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    Offline Pax Vobis

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    Re: If Bishop Zendejas would have started a Seminary........
    « Reply #1 on: April 16, 2025, 08:24:42 PM »
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    • If God wanted +Zendejas to start a seminary, it would've happened.  Quit complaining and criticizing.  There are plenty of seminaries in the US.
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    Offline Infirmus

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    Re: If Bishop Zendejas would have started a Seminary........
    « Reply #2 on: April 16, 2025, 09:29:33 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on April 16, 2025, 08:24:42 PM
    If God wanted +Zendejas to start a seminary, it would've happened.  Quit complaining and criticizing.  There are plenty of seminaries in the US.
    You must be Novus order or sede
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    Offline Mr G

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    Re: If Bishop Zendejas would have started a Seminary........
    « Reply #3 on: April 17, 2025, 07:41:20 AM »
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    • Quote from: Infirmus on April 16, 2025, 07:19:53 PM
    Would we have some Priests in North America?
    Support the current SAJM Seminary and encourage young men to go there, then over time there will be enough priest to help start a 2nd seminary in the USA. 
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    Offline Theophanes

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    Re: If Bishop Zendejas would have started a Seminary........
    « Reply #4 on: April 17, 2025, 09:12:30 AM »
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    • The french sajm seminary already sent one priest to US. We are now waiting for american vocations...
    But yes, by any.means, support the seminary already existing, this is the best way to have more priests at one point...
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    Re: If Bishop Zendejas would have started a Seminary........
    « Reply #5 on: April 17, 2025, 09:56:23 AM »
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    • If only I were born in the High Middle Ages....:confused:

    If and when Our Lord wants +Bp. Z. to open a seminary, that’s what’ll happen. The same should have been said of +Bp. W. (R.I.P.).  Here’s where I seriously disagree with Fr. H. Instead of continuing to castigate +Bp. W. posthumously, why not let it go and concentrate on his Oratory? His online classes are pretty good. Maybe God wants a monastery right now in NH, not a seminary. If He wants a seminary, He will provide one by whatever means, not necessarily by sending one of Bp. W’s bishops.  
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    Offline Steve

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    Re: If Bishop Zendejas would have started a Seminary........
    « Reply #6 on: April 17, 2025, 12:23:45 PM »
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    • Quote from: Theophanes on April 17, 2025, 09:12:30 AM
    The french sajm seminary already sent one priest to US. We are now waiting for american vocations...
    But yes, by any.means, support the seminary already existing, this is the best way to have more priests at one point...
    Share their news and publications:
    https://apotresdejesusetdemarie.fr/
    Thank you for this link!
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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: If Bishop Zendejas would have started a Seminary........
    « Reply #7 on: April 17, 2025, 12:43:44 PM »
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    • Quote from: Theophanes on April 17, 2025, 09:12:30 AM
    The french sajm seminary already sent one priest to US. We are now waiting for american vocations...

    Bishop Pfeiffer already has plenty of American vocations.  ;)
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    Re: If Bishop Zendejas would have started a Seminary........
    « Reply #8 on: April 17, 2025, 01:10:22 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on April 17, 2025, 12:43:44 PM
    Bishop Pfeiffer already has plenty of American vocations.  ;)
    Not funny. It’s a serious matter in my mind because even if one is okay with the Thuc line bishops, all there is to go upon is the Webster consecration online, dubious at best. Supposedly, corrections were made afterwards in the sacristy according to Fr. P. through P. the A.E. Nobody videoed it, recorded it, and Bp. Webster has gone to his reward. If there were other witnesses, they’ve not made themselves known. At this point, even if someone claimed to have been there, too much time has passed and any people I can’t think of are not reliable, or are deceased. This means one must be very careful about any unknown men calling themselves priests. I haven’t yet heard any apology or even acknowledgement about the fake bishop Ambrose Moran. That and lots of other factors cause me to refuse Mass and Sacraments from anyone at that establishment except for the priest who grew up there. I know he’s a real priest. But he is certainly not my first choice unless the matter is urgent. There are other options in the general area, up to three hour’s drive. I’m convinced the one way to turn OLMC around is to banish a certain person and call in priests to do exorcisms and reconsecrations, providing a right mind is restored to the founder. 

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    Re: If Bishop Zendejas would have started a Seminary........
    « Reply #9 on: April 18, 2025, 06:27:21 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on April 16, 2025, 08:24:42 PM
    If God wanted +Zendejas to start a seminary, it would've happened.  Quit complaining and criticizing.  There are plenty of seminaries in the US.
    I would like to know 5 seminaries that you would recommend,  it would give good insight in your resistant mentality
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    Re: If Bishop Zendejas would have started a Seminary........
    « Reply #10 on: April 18, 2025, 09:36:27 PM »
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    • In the Liturgy, Bp. Zendejas's reminder lesson is coming soon.



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    Re: If Bishop Zendejas would have started a Seminary........
    « Reply #11 on: April 18, 2025, 11:15:26 PM »
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    • Quote from: Theophanes on April 17, 2025, 09:12:30 AM
    The french sajm seminary already sent one priest to US. We are now waiting for american vocations...
    But yes, by any.means, support the seminary already existing, this is the best way to have more priests at one point...
    Share their news and publications:
    https://apotresdejesusetdemarie.fr/

    Someone once said on these boards that the SAJM has its classes in Latin (by the Dominicans) and that the daily life languange is French (obviously, since they are in France).

    So, American seminarians have to learn two languages pretty well before even taking the plane to France.

    A lot of good young men who would probably be good priests are kept from the priesthood because of this, I would imagine. I mean, how many Americans can speak French properly? What about Latin, which is even harder?
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    Offline Theophanes

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    Re: If Bishop Zendejas would have started a Seminary........
    « Reply #12 on: April 19, 2025, 04:39:58 AM »
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    • The classes of the dominicans are not really in latin, except maybe one father... and the other may use some latin textbook, but teach in french...
    And to master latin is normally a prerequisite for priests...
    In normal times, classes would really be in latin, and they would have to learn greek and hebrew...
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    Offline Giovanni Berto

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    Re: If Bishop Zendejas would have started a Seminary........
    « Reply #13 on: April 20, 2025, 09:51:38 AM »
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    • Quote from: Theophanes on April 19, 2025, 04:39:58 AM
    The classes of the dominicans are not really in latin, except maybe one father... and the other may use some latin textbook, but teach in french...
    And to master latin is normally a prerequisite for priests...
    In normal times, classes would really be in latin, and they would have to learn greek and hebrew...

    Thank you for the information.

    Do present day priests really master Latin? They can read and understand it, for sure, but can they conduct a conversation? I would think not. 

    Priests in normal times would have a far deeper training than the average Traditionalist priest, as far as I know.
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    Offline MaterDominici

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    Re: If Bishop Zendejas would have started a Seminary........
    « Reply #14 on: April 20, 2025, 12:18:17 PM »
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    • Two of the full time priests in America right now are French. Bp.Zendejas is a native Spanish speaker.
    If they hadn't learned English, where would we be?

    Nonetheless, if an American young man was interested in exploring a vocation, I wouldn't be booking plane tickets to France without speaking with Bp.Z first.
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