Author Topic: I demand an explination! (Read 7466 times)

soulguard · « **on:** November 17, 2013, 09:04:21 AM »

The "resistance" in this country is like a secret society.
You have to be hand picked to go to a resistance mass because it is by invite only. How can these people call themselves Catholic when a Catholic mass is open to all the baptized? As a Catholic I have a right to go to mass. If there is a mass and I must be invited to go to it, then it is not a Catholic mass, it is a CULT.

I want to know the reason for this secrecy.
Its not like people are trying to kill you or anything if your mass is attended by people you don't know.

Another thing,
This is no way to build a resistance - by handpicking people from SSPX chapels?!?? Do you want to convert the world or not?

Explain please.

Mithrandylan · « **Reply #1 on:** November 17, 2013, 09:55:05 AM »

I don't know anything about the Resistance where you are.

Mass is and should not be a secret. I don't know what you mean "by invitation only" but keep in mind that anyone who sponsors a Resistance mass can only tell the people they know about it. If the word of mouth doesn't get to you, that doesn't mean that it's secret. It just means you didn't know about it.

Ekim · « **Reply #2 on:** November 17, 2013, 10:14:44 AM »

Ahhhhh Soulguard. Charity in all things. To "Demand" anything, let alone the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, is a bit brass and untasteful to say the least. Such Masses are NEVER secret. They are usually offered on short notice, but are never secret. For instance, they did not post this weeks Mass locations until last Friday. If you go to the website you will see clearly listed, the addresses of all Masses being ofbfered this weekend.

Hang in there little buckarooo. Don't let your frustration get the best of you. Mass locations are usually posted no later than Friday night. This is not done to be secret but simplya mattrr of dollar's and cents. The good priests look at how much they received in donations, how many folks are requesting the Mass, and where they can afford to fly. I feel quite certain that if you have a group who desires the Mass and are willing to help the Father's pay for the flight, they will try their very best to work you into their schedule very busy schedule.

soulguard · « **Reply #3 on:** November 17, 2013, 10:22:17 AM »

Quote from: Mithrandylan

I don't know anything about the Resistance where you are.

Mass is and should not be a secret. I don't know what you mean "by invitation only" but keep in mind that anyone who sponsors a Resistance mass can only tell the people they know about it. If the word of mouth doesn't get to you, that doesn't mean that it's secret. It just means you didn't know about it.

Someone told me that it is by invite only. I also have no idea where the masses are on, obviously it is a secret but people don't want to say it is for some reason.

Mithrandylan · « **Reply #4 on:** November 17, 2013, 10:27:52 AM »

Quote from: soulguard

Quote from: Mithrandylan
I don't know anything about the Resistance where you are.

Mass is and should not be a secret. I don't know what you mean "by invitation only" but keep in mind that anyone who sponsors a Resistance mass can only tell the people they know about it. If the word of mouth doesn't get to you, that doesn't mean that it's secret. It just means you didn't know about it.

Someone told me that it is by invite only. I also have no idea where the masses are on, obviously it is a secret but people don't want to say it is for some reason.

Someone who is actually in charge of your local resistance? Or just "someone" who may or may not have any idea what they're talking about?

soulguard · « **Reply #5 on:** November 17, 2013, 10:32:23 AM »

Quote from: Mithrandylan

Quote from: soulguard
Quote from: Mithrandylan
I don't know anything about the Resistance where you are.

Mass is and should not be a secret. I don't know what you mean "by invitation only" but keep in mind that anyone who sponsors a Resistance mass can only tell the people they know about it. If the word of mouth doesn't get to you, that doesn't mean that it's secret. It just means you didn't know about it.

Someone told me that it is by invite only. I also have no idea where the masses are on, obviously it is a secret but people don't want to say it is for some reason.

Someone who is actually in charge of your local resistance? Or just "someone" who may or may not have any idea what they're talking about?

I don't know. And I suspect I wont find out either!

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #6 on:** November 17, 2013, 10:50:00 AM »

If the resistance Mass venue in your area is affiliated with Fr Pfeiffer's group, it is published on the calendar of their very public website.

You need no invitation to attend.

Inthissignyoushallconquer.com

Frances · « **Reply #7 on:** November 17, 2013, 02:53:13 PM »

:dancing-banana:
From now on, I'll post Resistance Masses in Northeastern US on CI as soon as I learn of them. There are no secrets here! Short notice, yes. Secrets? No.

JPaul · « **Reply #8 on:** November 18, 2013, 07:57:58 AM »

The foundation of this thread is ignorance and misinformation. The means to access the required information is available on this very forum.

soulguard · « **Reply #9 on:** November 18, 2013, 11:08:02 AM »

Quote from: J.Paul

The foundation of this thread is ignorance and misinformation. The means to access the required information is available on this very forum.

Deny it all you want. Then why was I told I need to be invited to go to mass?
And why is there no mass locations for my country here, or on any of your affiliated websites. You lie to me.

obediens · « **Reply #10 on:** November 18, 2013, 04:08:04 PM »

You should spell explanation right, before you demand one.

Sorry, Catholic education reflex...

JPaul · « **Reply #11 on:** November 18, 2013, 04:11:55 PM »

Quote from: soulguard

Quote from: J.Paul
The foundation of this thread is ignorance and misinformation. The means to access the required information is available on this very forum.

Deny it all you want. Then why was I told I need to be invited to go to mass?
And why is there no mass locations for my country here, or on any of your affiliated websites. You lie to me.

You were given false information. So you need not repeat it again. Where I live it is unlikely that there will never be a resistance Mass close to me. Does that mean that someone is lying to me?

No one is lying to you save whoever told you that you needed an invitation to a Catholic Mass.

I demand that you get your facts straight before posting again. I lie to you, indeed!

magdalena · « **Reply #12 on:** November 18, 2013, 05:35:56 PM »

soulguard,
Maybe you will find this helpful. I'm sure you will be welcome.

Post by MichaelRooney on Nov 16, 2013 at 11:32am

New website for the Catholic Resistance in Ireland:

resistancecatholic.blogspot.ie/

This seems to be great news from Ireland!

magdalena · « **Reply #13 on:** November 18, 2013, 05:47:54 PM »

BTW, When the Resistance first began, I was told that it was "invite only" as well. But I believe that type of thing has tapered off quite a bit. Maybe it's a matter of where you live? Also, Mass listings are posted here on CI all the time. Best wishes.

Matthew · « **Reply #14 on:** November 18, 2013, 06:54:58 PM »

As someone who has hosted Fr. Pfeiffer and/or Fr. Hewko a total of 3 times, I can tell you that it's often on very short notice. You send out an e-mail to those interested (based on who you've spoken with, etc.) and then you try to call as many others you think might be interested, until time runs out. But phone calls take a lot of time, and not every Resistance "coordinator" is a retired person.

But just hosting the Mass involves a certain amount of work and preparation -- which also takes time.

At any rate, word of mouth IS going to fail to reach some people. If it didn't, no business would ever pay for advertising!

Lastly, just because someone tells you "it's by invitation only" does NOT mean they know what they're talking about. They might be specifically TRYING to make the Resistance look bad and cult-like.

P.S. It's also true that many of these resistance Masses are said in private homes. A private home is still a private home -- it doesn't become a public chapel just because a public act of worship is going to be offered there once. I don't think the owners of these private homes are "snobbish" or "cultish" just because they'd like to know the people they're inviting to Mass. Would you invite an internet stranger into your house? And even if you would, there are many (older than 25) who would NOT.