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Offline trento

Re: +Huonder to Consecrate SSPX Holy Oils
« Reply #130 on: April 22, 2023, 11:08:50 PM »
Quote from: Plenus Venter on April 18, 2023, 10:59:05 PM
Archbishop Lefebvre and the SSPX have never considered the New Rite of Priestly Ordination to be invalid. It is the intention of the ordaining bishop, and the validity of his consecration, that may be called into question. If the ordination was performed by a true bishop whose intention was not in doubt, then conditionally re-ordaining would not only be not necessary but forbidden by the Church.

I agree with you. This is why it is on a case-by-case basis and never to my knowledge a strict policy of the SSPX to conditionally ordain all NO clergy that embraces Tradition. If I'm not mistaken, I read also the same controversy in Brazil with Fr. Jahir Britto of the FBMV (also not known to be conditionally ordained) and Dom Tomas Aquino defended the validity of Fr. Jahir's ordination.
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Offline poenitens

Re: +Huonder to Consecrate SSPX Holy Oils
« Reply #131 on: June 27, 2023, 09:55:34 PM »
Before this happened, I told the SSPX priest that celebrates mass at the mission I attend to that I wished to receive confirmation as soon as possible.

Just this week, he contacted me saying that he was going to send me the calendar of confirmation visits because it is unlikely that the bishops will visit the city I live in so I'll probably have to travel. But now I'm wondering whether they are going to use the oils "consecrated" by Huonder.

Does anybody have an idea where the oils used for confirmation in Mexico come from? Or does every bishop carry his "own" oil? I do not know yet which bishop is going to visit.
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Offline Giovanni Berto

Re: +Huonder to Consecrate SSPX Holy Oils
« Reply #132 on: June 27, 2023, 10:07:27 PM »
Quote from: poenitens on June 27, 2023, 09:55:34 PM
Before this happened, I told the SSPX priest that celebrates mass at the mission I attend to that I wished to receive confirmation as soon as possible.

Just this week, he contacted me saying that he was going to send me the calendar of confirmation visits because it is unlikely that the bishops will visit the city I live in so I'll probably have to travel. But now I'm wondering whether they are going to use the oils "consecrated" by Huonder.

Does anybody have an idea where the oils used for confirmation in Mexico come from? Or does every bishop carry his "own" oil? I do not know yet which bishop is going to visit.

It has been said on some other thread on this board that the Huonder (Un)Holy Oils will be used only in Europe.

From what I could gather, each chapel gets its oils from the nearest seminary. So, the oils used in Mexico will probably come from the American seminary.
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Offline poenitens

Re: +Huonder to Consecrate SSPX Holy Oils
« Reply #133 on: June 27, 2023, 10:31:55 PM »
Quote from: Giovanni Berto on June 27, 2023, 10:07:27 PM
It has been said on some other thread on this board that the Huonder (Un)Holy Oils will be used only in Europe.
I remember reading this too but now I can't find where.

Thank you, GB
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Offline SeanJohnson

Re: +Huonder to Consecrate SSPX Holy Oils
« Reply #134 on: June 27, 2023, 10:41:45 PM »
Why not just get confirmed by +Zendejas?
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