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stgobnait · « **Reply #30 on:** September 24, 2012, 04:42:24 PM »

oh, let it go.... why demand your pound of flesh.....

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #31 on:** September 25, 2012, 01:54:22 AM »

This whole turmoil in the SSPX is starting to make some people a little crazy. But I
think this is just the beginning. Too many really, really want to believe EGBOK, and
they're not going to give it up without at least a tantrum.

You'll know that +Fellay is preparing to "sign" when the hired security at
Menzingen takes a quantum leap forward................

Too many SSPXers and otherwise independent Trads are trying to breathe easy
now that the accord issue seems to be "off the table." They're taking that as a
sign of stability and peace. But the controversy smolders, nonetheless. Wishing
it to go away is not effective. This isn't a NewAge groupthink activity.

NeelyAnn and her ilk are a microcosm of the world out there, appearing to some
as wearing blinders, choosing not to know. Why? because of human weakness:
the truth is not easy to accept. They can't believe that this is happening. Ask the
survivors of Heroshima and Nagasaki what it was like to believe that was
happening. Remember: those were the two most Catholic cities in Japan.

The contents of sossaveoursspx and truetrad and Fr. Chazal's open letters are not
for the faint of heart. But those of us who are able to stomach them are called
upon to do so. It has taken me a long time to get up the courage. But it seems
like we might be almost out of time, somehow. If you don't read them before
it's "too late," you won't be able to blame anyone but yourself.

B16's Golden Jubilee "Year of Faith" begins in just over two weeks, and curiously,
that's the same day that +Fellay has chosen to backpedal with the canceled
ordinations he now promises to "make up." We'll just have to wait and see how
that plan pans out.

Magna opera Domini · « **Reply #32 on:** September 26, 2012, 12:41:53 AM »

Neil Obstat, I agree with you. A critical problem for the defense of the faith is that we live in an era of the primacy of feelings over intellect, and the best-intentioned traditional Catholics are not immune to this pervasive cultural weakness. Data points that contradict what we believe, when they accuмulate, ought to precipitate a change in our understanding, no matter how unsettling it is to our feelings. Neely Ann’s silence is important if it demonstrates an instance of the triumph of feelings over intellect, desire over reality.

What is most disheartening is to see not just women but men subject to this intellectual and emotional weakness. In another thread it was suggested that the Society suffers from a growing effeminacy. A poster took vehement exception to the charge and offered as proof of its falsity the strapping size and muscularity of a particular Society priest. Wrong criteria for masculinity, but it perfectly mirrors the world’s distorted mindset.

We need traditional Catholic men and women, but particularly men, to order their faculties according to a correct primacy, the mind over the heart and the heart over the belly, and courage to combat an all too real threat.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #33 on:** October 01, 2012, 08:10:30 AM »

Good post, Magna.

I just came here from a new thread started by a member who knows the man
who's the editor of sossaveoursspx.com and he says this veteran firefighter was
indeed denied Communion because he runs that website.

Quote from: Zorayda (from the other thread)

... Our friend, father of 8, longtime supporter of SSPX and parishioner of Christ the King Church in Ridgefield, CT was denied Holy Communion by his pastor for having a website about the current SSPX/Rome crisis (only a few months old). This good man, a veteran firefighter, sacrifices his vacation time in order to attend Mass on Sundays & this is how he is treated by his pastor?

http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Denial-of-Sacraments

Meanwhile, NeelyAnn is still on the lam.

Meanwhile, it's now only 10 days to go before October 11th, which will be the
50th anniversary of the infamous Opening Speech of Vatican II, when John XXIII
of infalicitous memory abandoned the power of the Keys of St. Peter in public, for
all with eyes to see, and ears to hear.

Was that the arrival of the grey horse of the Apocalypse?
Or, is the 50th anniversary, the "Golden Jubilee" rather its arrival?

They seem to be capable of scheduling things to happen at the same time, all
right: the Golden Jubilee ritual and +Fellay's promised ordinations of the
candidates who should not have been postponed in June in the first place. When
will they get it together and have the Collegial Consecration of Russia to the
Immaculate Heart of Mary, by the Pope and all the bishops of the world, on the
same day, at the same time (within reasonable limits)?

They seem to be quite capable of getting all the world's religions to show up at
Assisi for a display of nonsense. How about getting all the bishops to take 5
minutes to get something really worthwhile accomplished?

John Grace · « **Reply #34 on:** October 01, 2012, 10:15:03 AM »

My advice would be to continue the website and not be bullied. It seems to be more a case of them not liking what they read and see than a case of calumny written here and there.Like 'Krahgate' where is the calumny? It is the same regarding the docuмent on the Menzingen lawyer. This attack on the editor of sossaveoursspx.com shows how malicious and desperate Bishop Fellay and his gang are.Look at Fr Rostand and the 'Against the Rumours' series of video.What/Who is Fr Rostand afraid of?

John Grace · « **Reply #35 on:** October 01, 2012, 10:26:22 AM »

Quote from: stgobnait

oh, let it go.... why demand your pound of flesh.....

Naturally, one shouldn't just let it go.

John Grace · « **Reply #36 on:** October 01, 2012, 10:42:41 AM »

Quote

oh, let it go.... why demand your pound of flesh....

Perhaps I am "feeding the trolls" but it would be interesting to establish as to why we should "let it go"? Let what go? I'm not particularly clear what you mean.

My conclusion drawn is the SSPX are now denying the sacraments to those who seek and promote truth.

I had 'Patricius' state I personally wouldn't know truth if it "kicked me up the backside".

Are you suggesting we sit back and place ourselves under "holy obedience" and not protest the injustice that the editor has experienced or are we 'delusional'?

I think it's disgusting he has been denied the sacraments. It's rather annoying when it is suggested to "let it go".

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #37 on:** October 01, 2012, 11:40:33 AM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

Good post, Magna.

I just came here from a new thread started by a member who knows the man
who's the editor of sossaveoursspx.com and he says this veteran firefighter was
indeed denied Communion because he runs that website.

Quote from: Zorayda (from the other thread)
... Our friend, father of 8, longtime supporter of SSPX and parishioner of Christ the King Church in Ridgefield, CT was denied Holy Communion by his pastor for having a website about the current SSPX/Rome crisis (only a few months old). This good man, a veteran firefighter, sacrifices his vacation time in order to attend Mass on Sundays & this is how he is treated by his pastor?

http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Denial-of-Sacraments

Meanwhile, NeelyAnn is still on the lam.

Meanwhile, it's now only 10 days to go before October 11th, which will be the
50th anniversary of the infamous Opening Speech of Vatican II, when John XXIII
of infalicitous memory abandoned the power of the Keys of St. Peter in public, for
all with eyes to see, and ears to hear.

Was that the arrival of the grey horse of the Apocalypse?
Or, is the 50th anniversary, the "Golden Jubilee" rather its arrival?

They seem to be capable of scheduling things to happen at the same time, all
right: the Golden Jubilee ritual and +Fellay's promised ordinations of the
candidates who should not have been postponed in June in the first place. When
will they get it together and have the Collegial Consecration of Russia to the
Immaculate Heart of Mary, by the Pope and all the bishops of the world, on the
same day, at the same time (within reasonable limits)?

They seem to be quite capable of getting all the world's religions to show up at
Assisi for a display of nonsense. How about getting all the bishops to take 5
minutes to get something really worthwhile accomplished?

I thought on October 11, 1962 John XXIII on his death bed cried out "stop the council!!! Stop the council!! Then september 20th 1963 Pope Paul Vi reopened it letting non catholics make chhages to our Mass and sacraments...

Paul Vi dies on august 6 1978 and he admits that Satan was now in the sanctuary.

Divide and conquer priest against priest and lay person against lay person. This what vatican II promotes.

Please make sure the things I stated above are facts. I'm going to write a letter to editors.

Magna opera Domini · « **Reply #38 on:** October 02, 2012, 01:45:13 AM »

The “pound of flesh” analogy is not apt in the least. To persevere in asking Neely Ann for the promised report – a report we can assume would have been received quickly if it had been advantageous to her position – is hardly akin to Shakespeare’s villainous Jєωιѕн usurer.

If any person is in danger of being cut “closest to the heart” it is the poor fellow who has been denied Our Lord in Holy Communion for the offense of publicly shaming certain persons in position of power. What could be more grave then for a priest to wield the sacraments as a weapon of his displeasure? I would tremble to be in such shoes.