I was looking at the new SSPX website to find something for a relative who, for the first time, might be open to tradition.  I was looking for something on that website that I had found on the old website many years ago that helped me find tradition.

In the past, the SSPX had a "New to Tradition Package" link that I could click on and enter my name and address.  The SSPX then mailed me the book, Open Letter to Confused Catholics, another book (I don't remember which one), and several pamphlets about tradition and the traditional Mass.  And it was sent for free, though the mailing did ask for a donation if I had the mind to donate.

I searched and searched, but they no longer do this.  At least I cannot find it.  If anyone knows if they still offer free materials for people searching for tradition, let me know.

Just because the website is different to the time "many years ago" when you saw the package first does not mean the SSPX has changed.

But it does mean that they no longer make it easy for people who are new to tradition or seeking to learn more about tradition to find information on their own website.  

People talk a lot about evangelization, but their website is so hard to navigate today I doubt many people are evangelized through it anymore.

The emphasis of the SSPX has just seemed to change from bringing people to tradition to...something else.  What that something else is, I don't want to speculate.

I'm pretty sure this is what you're looking for:

SET: New To Tradition Kit (NTT)

But you do have to pay for it. $21.95

I'm pretty sure this is what you're looking for:

SET: New To Tradition Kit (NTT)

But you do have to pay for it. $21.95

Yes.  This is exactly what I received for free through the SSPX.org website--not from Angelus Press--a few years ago (except that I don't remember the "Time Bombs" pamphlet.  The "kit" came with a request for a donation to help defray the costs of sending this material and told me the cost of the materials.  I don't remember what the requested donation was around 2005 or so, but it was probably around $20.00, and I gratefully sent them a donation.

If I were new to tradition or seeking information about tradition, what would make me think to search the Angelus Press website for this?  

As I said, it seems that the outlook of the Society has changed a little.

More Importantly, TKGS, why would you send anyone you cared about to an SSPX website-- or to any SSPX literature, in the hopes that they will find, and appreciate, tradition? You are setting them up to be lost, confused, cheated and, ultimately, devastated. Look at what Fellay and his cronies are doing all over the world ( Cath Info is full of information as to the nasty way the SSPX is treating traditionalists in every country). Even if your relative learned to appreciate and love tradition, sitting in an SSPX chapel he/she will be slowly boiled over into a modernist-- the same type down at the local Novus Ordo Ecclesia Dei Church.Father Goldady in Ridgefield is telling the Holy Name men they can fulfill their Sunday obligations at the local Novus Ordo Church; SSPX has told married Catholics to "get your annulments in the Novus Ordo, then come back here and receive the sacraments", and to annulled partners, they say " Get married at the Ecclesia Dei Church, then come back here as man and wife"; Father Burfitt is telling people that "there is no such thing as a Conciliar Church and a Catholic Church-- we are one!"

  How would you reconcile that with the Archbishop , who was excommunicated by the conciliar church, and who stated he had no "desire to belong to the conciliar church"-- He was a member of the Roman catholic Church? How would you then try to explain the confusion your dear friend then had? "Join the SSPX-- only to be sent back into the wolves den in Rome?"

   It would be far better to refer your dear friend to Father Ringrose or father Patrick Girouard-- then they will get thoroughly Catholic advise.

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Father Goldady in Ridgefield is telling the Holy Name men they can fulfill their Sunday obligations at the local Novus Ordo Church; SSPX has told married Catholics to "get your annulments in the Novus Ordo, then come back here and receive the sacraments", and to annulled partners, they say " Get married at the Ecclesia Dei Church, then come back here as man and wife"; Father Burfitt is telling people that "there is no such thing as a Conciliar Church and a Catholic Church-- we are one!"

This is horrible. Father Goldade used to be my priest. Did he really say you could go to the Novus Ordo. Why on earth is he not a Novus Ordo priest then? Although that reminds me of when I confessed to him going to the Novus Ordo he told me it was not a sin. Do SSPX priest really recommend annulments? That is horrible. What the hell is going on?

There was such a concern by the men of the Holy Name Society that a priest of the diocese of New York was being brought in, that Father Goldade held a men's meeting and tried to assuage us, saying that Father Rostand was going to review all the priest's (presbyter's) credentials. (Although the presbyter had already told the Ladies meeting the previous week that he was NOT going to be conditionally reordained-- he was "ordained" in the new rites in 1986 by O'Connor--{whose sister just announced THIS MONTH  she and her brother had a Jєωιѕн mother]!).
  During the heated discussion, several men complained "Why are you bringing him here-- this is what we have been fighting for 45 years?"--" Are you saying we can go to the Novus Ordo Church down the street?"  To which Father Goldade replied-"Yes, You fulfill your Sunday obligation by going there-- but we say it is dangerous to your soul!"

   Go Figure !!

  The Archbishop refused to say EVEN ONE Novus Ordo mass:"Why would I,(he said),If it is evil why would I say even one n.o. mass?"  But now, Bishop Fellay, 30 years later, says the Archbishop NEVER WOULD HAVE CONSECRATED BISHOPS if he had attended the Novus Ordo Mass of Canizares in Milan Italy!!

   The priests of the SSPX are losing their faith, they are losing their direction, they are losing their bearings-- plain and simple. the leader has been struck with a deadly illness, and all the followers will be attacked with the same plague.

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Are you saying we can go to the Novus Ordo Church down the street?"  To which Father Goldade replied- "Yes, You fulfill your Sunday obligation by going there -- but we say it is dangerous to your soul!"

Since when does a Catholic by endangering his soul therefore fulfill his Sunday obligation?  

So it's your obligation to put your soul in danger on Sunday?  

A precept of the Church:  You must endanger your soul on Sunday?


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Quote from: Neil Obstat

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Quote from: hugeman

Are you saying we can go to the Novus Ordo Church down the street?"  To which Father Goldade replied- "Yes, You fulfill your Sunday obligation by going there -- but we say it is dangerous to your soul!"

Since when does a Catholic by endangering his soul therefore fulfill his Sunday obligation?  

So it's your obligation to put your soul in danger on Sunday?  

A precept of the Church:  You must endanger your soul on Sunday?


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Since Menzingen accepted the Conciliarists  as being the True Church of Christ.

Good point.........................   :scratchchin:



The Newmenzingen Newcatechism:  

What are the Newprecepts of Newmenzingen regarding Newchurch?

The Newprecepts of Newmenzingen regarding Newchurch are these -- Thou shalt not offend non-Catholics* -- Thou shalt not avoid a Newchurch Mass on Sunday even if it endangers your soul -- Thou shalt not use the Internet unless it's for sspx.org or DICI.org which are okay because we said so -- Thou shalt not harbor critical thinking about the SG or your own DS in regards to relations with Newchurch, including questions of jurisdiction (supplied or otherwise) -- Thou shalt not question this list of Newprecepts.  




*..especially if they're Jєωs because that's anti-Semitism, which means it's something that offends the Jєωs.  Got it?