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Offline EverydayDismas

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How do I join the resistance?
« on: March 27, 2022, 03:22:50 AM »
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  • How do I join?  I was baptized catholic but never received communion.i have attended tridentine mass when I can get to one. 

    listened to all bishop Williamsons recordings and want to receive communion as part of the resistance. 

    My questions  

    Where do I attend mass?online?I'm in california temporarily but headed back to florida 

    How do I receive communion?I'm willing to fly internationally  if necessary

    Do resistance members ever associate with each other in person?

    I'm mixed race . Native american/italian pass for Hispanic. Is this an issue ?I'm not a race card leftist but sspx has put out statements that led me to believe they didnt want any outsiders  yet bishop Williamson seems to have a special affinity for latinos .

    Thanks for all the help guys.


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    Re: How do I join the resistance?
    « Reply #1 on: March 27, 2022, 05:37:14 AM »
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  • Do a webseach for “SSPX resistance California” for a lead. I am sure a few people here will be able to advise you. No need for I/N flights. Anyway welcome to CathInfo. Keep searching. :pray:
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    Re: How do I join the resistance?
    « Reply #2 on: March 27, 2022, 06:42:25 AM »
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  • Plenty of Trad Mass sites throughout Florida, SSPX and otherwise, we are very fortunate in that regard in the Sunshine State!

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    Re: How do I join the resistance?
    « Reply #3 on: March 27, 2022, 10:05:48 AM »
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  • Plenty of Trad Mass sites throughout Florida, SSPX and otherwise, we are very fortunate in that regard in the Sunshine State!
    I live in Florida and the only Resistance mass is Fr.Hewko's once a year.

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    Re: How do I join the resistance?
    « Reply #4 on: March 27, 2022, 10:28:21 AM »
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  • I live in Florida and the only Resistance mass is Fr.Hewko's once a year.
    That is correct as regards my friend Fr.Hewko, though he usually tries for 2-3x per year. But Traditionally speaking, many non-Resistance Mass sites to look into


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    Re: How do I join the resistance?
    « Reply #5 on: March 27, 2022, 10:40:24 AM »
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  • How do I join?  I was baptized catholic but never received communion.i have attended tridentine mass when I can get to one.

    listened to all bishop Williamsons recordings and want to receive communion as part of the resistance.

    My questions 

    Where do I attend mass?online?I'm in california temporarily but headed back to florida

    How do I receive communion?I'm willing to fly internationally  if necessary

    Do resistance members ever associate with each other in person?

    I'm mixed race . Native american/italian pass for Hispanic. Is this an issue ?I'm not a race card leftist but sspx has put out statements that led me to believe they didnt want any outsiders  yet bishop Williamson seems to have a special affinity for latinos .

    Thanks for all the help guys.
    Stay away from Pfeiffer, Hewko, Pancras, croisette, cooke, rafael, wiest, and poisson, for starters.

    Catholic candle has a good list of priests.
    Traditio has a good list of mass locations.
    If you combine the two, you have a good start.

    I encourage you to write to b. Williamson or b. Zendejas and ask them where to attend mass.

    If race comes up as an issue, run the other way because that is not Catholic.

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    Re: How do I join the resistance?
    « Reply #6 on: March 27, 2022, 11:11:33 AM »
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  • I live in Florida and the only Resistance mass is Fr.Hewko's once a year.
    Stay away from priests without a real bishop superior.

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    Re: How do I join the resistance?
    « Reply #7 on: March 27, 2022, 11:13:46 AM »
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  • How do I join?  I was baptized catholic but never received communion.i have attended tridentine mass when I can get to one.

    listened to all bishop Williamsons recordings and want to receive communion as part of the resistance.

    My questions 

    Where do I attend mass?online?I'm in california temporarily but headed back to florida

    How do I receive communion?I'm willing to fly internationally  if necessary

    Do resistance members ever associate with each other in person?

    I'm mixed race . Native american/italian pass for Hispanic. Is this an issue ?I'm not a race card leftist but sspx has put out statements that led me to believe they didnt want any outsiders  yet bishop Williamson seems to have a special affinity for latinos .

    Thanks for all the help guys.
    CA -- look up Fr. Sretenovic.  Great priest.


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    Re: How do I join the resistance?
    « Reply #8 on: March 27, 2022, 11:50:43 AM »
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  • Stay away from priests without a real bishop superior.
    That would be the plan but I know a few FL Trad locations are very safe

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    Re: How do I join the resistance?
    « Reply #9 on: March 28, 2022, 02:32:51 PM »
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  • That would be the plan but I know a few FL Trad locations are very safe
    no priest is "safe" who does not have a real bishop superior, including your "good friend" Fr. Hewko, for the Church calls them vagus priests and they are to be avoided.  

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    Re: How do I join the resistance?
    « Reply #10 on: March 28, 2022, 03:46:57 PM »
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  • no priest is "safe" who does not have a real bishop superior, including your "good friend" Fr. Hewko, for the Church calls them vagus priests and they are to be avoided. 

    In order not to be vagus a priest has to report to a superior (usually a bishop, but not always) WITH JURISDICTION.  News flash:  all Traditional priests are currently vagi except possibly the FSSP (if you think they count a Traditional priests).  Reporting to some random bishop who has no jurisdiction doesn't count.  And the FSSP superior has never been a bishop (deliberately), so the priests reported the FSSP superior and merely had various friendly bishops perform their ordinations.


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    Re: How do I join the resistance?
    « Reply #11 on: March 28, 2022, 04:07:22 PM »
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  • In order not to be vagus a priest has to report to a superior (usually a bishop, but not always) WITH JURISDICTION.  News flash:  all Traditional priests are currently vagi except possibly the FSSP (if you think they count a Traditional priests).  Reporting to some random bishop who has no jurisdiction doesn't count.  And the FSSP superior has never been a bishop (deliberately), so the priests reported the FSSP superior and merely had various friendly bishops perform their ordinations.

    In that case (which might be true), then the technicality of being a "vagus" doesn't matter, and what matters more is the SPIRIT of vagary.

    Let's put it this way: There's no way that a priest like Fr. X or Fr. Y (names withheld) who chose to heed the siren song and went off to "be their own boss" are every bit as good/promising/holy for parking your soul (and those of your family) as a priest who seeks out and submits himself to a good Traditional bishop who is doing God's work -- fighting the good fight.

    Which priest is more in keeping with the spirit of the Church, the spirit of his vocation, the spirit of the Priesthood? Remember, FUNDAMENTALLY a priest is a bishop's helper, full stop. A priest who makes no effort (or makes excuses) why he can't submit to one of the MANY TRAD BISHOPS doing God's own work -- such a priest is GOING to be inferior and have issues at the very least. His whole apostolate will be flawed by his pride, willfulness, and lack of obedience.

    Remember how God works. He doesn't need one more priest. He doesn't need ten more priests. What He wants is JUST A FEW holy priests completely surrendered to His Holy Will. Always seeking and trying to do God's will. That's all God "needs" from Trad priests. The idea that a priest can work better off on his own -- that's a delusion of the devil. ALWAYS. Just because the Novus Ordo happened doesn't mean Obedience is obsolete. Obedience is STILL extremely important, especially for a priest. Especially if he wants his apostolate to bear fruit.

    The letter of the law killeth. The spirit giveth life. The Pharisees were masters of keeping the letter of the law.
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    Re: How do I join the resistance?
    « Reply #12 on: March 28, 2022, 04:26:55 PM »
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  • In that case (which might be true), then the technicality of being a "vagus" doesn't matter, and what matters more is the SPIRIT of vagary.

    Indeed.  That's a standard for NORMAL times in a Church.  Back then you couldn't have independent bishops floating around either.  But this is a Crisis that's even worse than the Arian times.  During those times, the orthodox bishops were going around consecrating and INSTALLING bishops in Sees that had been occupied by the Arians.  We are in unprecedented times, and being vagus from the Conciliar Church is a virtue, relatively speaking.

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    Re: How do I join the resistance?
    « Reply #13 on: March 28, 2022, 05:04:01 PM »
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  • Indeed.  That's a standard for NORMAL times in a Church.  Back then you couldn't have independent bishops floating around either.  But this is a Crisis that's even worse than the Arian times.  During those times, the orthodox bishops were going around consecrating and INSTALLING bishops in Sees that had been occupied by the Arians.  We are in unprecedented times, and being vagus from the Conciliar Church is a virtue, relatively speaking.
    I see Matthew's point though.  Yes TECHNICALLY none of the crisis bishops have authority.  There still is very likely a pride problem if you aren't willing to place yourself under any of them because you think you know better.  Its similar to how you might not be able to *clearly* condemn home aloneism, because traditionally holy day of obligation applies to diocesan chapels, and yet we could still say someone who refused to submit himself spiritually to ANY priest is a fool.  Similar thing I think.

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    Re: How do I join the resistance?
    « Reply #14 on: March 28, 2022, 05:33:19 PM »
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  • In order not to be vagus a priest has to report to a superior (usually a bishop, but not always) WITH JURISDICTION.  News flash:  all Traditional priests are currently vagi except possibly the FSSP (if you think they count a Traditional priests).  Reporting to some random bishop who has no jurisdiction doesn't count.  And the FSSP superior has never been a bishop (deliberately), so the priests reported the FSSP superior and merely had various friendly bishops perform their ordinations.
    The Church is in crisis, but a priest must still submit to authority, jurisdictional authority or not.  There are plenty of traditional bishops around for a priest to work with.  

    And i hate to use the term "in crisis", for that is the excuse the Pfeiffer clan use for everything they do.