Author Topic: How Catholics ought to dress (email from SSPX) (Read 11109 times)

clare · « **Reply #20 on:** June 25, 2015, 01:28:10 AM »

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They reflect the Unisex Movement. Under the heading, "The Pantsuit: Hemline Controversy" the 1970 Compton Encyclopedia Yearbook states on page 249: "Paris couturier Jacques Esterel states that 'identification of the sexes in terms of clothes will become a thing of the past.'...

Thing is, while there are undoubtedly women who dress masculinely and men who dress femininely, there is more to clothing than one item, in this case trousers. Is a woman with a long floral blouse, and feminine shoes, suddenly dressing like a man if she also happens to be wearing trousers which are clearly feminine in design? And is a man who also happens to be wearing the same combination I just described, dressed appropriately for a man simply because he has trousers on? The whole ensemble needs to be taken into account.

Meg · « **Reply #21 on:** June 25, 2015, 11:57:19 AM »

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And it's not just attractive young women either. FAt or thin, young or old ... wearing pants ... everyone's backsides are on display. It's just that most women could care less about men's backsides. At the N.O. parish we attend, rows and rows of women, young and old alike wearing pants ... big backsides, small backsides, all with pockets, or pockets with designs or things on them to DRAW ATTENTION to their backsides!

It's like we're all baboons anymore....sending out the mating call.

Gross.

You are SO right. I attend the NO, for the most part, and one of the more unpleasant aspects of is that many women and some men wear tight-fitting pants to Mass. I can't help but notice when they are in front of me at Mass. Yuck!

You're right about us (well, non-trads, that is) being all baboons - sending out the mating call. It's awful.

Alexandria · « **Reply #22 on:** June 25, 2015, 12:56:04 PM »

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I think it's a nice instinct to want to assume young women in their teens and twenties just don't know what they're wearing or how it affects men. But iId on't believe it's true. A child, maybe ... and I know children are now wearing whatever is fashionable to ape their older sisters or celebrities. Some children who've been corrupted by those same celebs / movies / tv / music ... probably unfortunately know as well.

But for women in adolescence and beyond know that they are emphasizing their bodies in a way that causes attention. It's hardwired into to us to seek to get attention-approval from a man for our appearance. If we are raised to believe that immodest dressing is the most powerful way to do that, we do that.

I don't think women need to know the specific details of what this physically or mentally or spiritually does to a man to know that it's something they are getting an enormous payoff in regard to their own pride and vanity.

And for SaintAlice ...my unfortunate experience has been that all men look at women's backsides. All of the them, all the time. They just have learned to not be obvious about it. And if a woman is walking somewhere in tight pants and people walking or standing behind her , rest assured that everyone, men and women alike, are looking at her backside.

And it's not just attractive young women either. FAt or thin, young or old ... wearing pants ... everyone's backsides are on display. It's just that most women could care less about men's backsides. At the N.O. parish we attend, rows and rows of women, young and old alike wearing pants ... big backsides, small backsides, all with pockets, or pockets with designs or things on them to DRAW ATTENTION to their backsides!

It's like we're all baboons anymore....sending out the mating call.

Gross.

Wonderful post, Mrs. Z, and I couldn't agree more. Women young and old need to wake up. No more shame left in them. The grossest are the young ladies who are pregnant with skin tight tops over their stomach. Where is the dignity of motherhood in that vulgar display?

Alexandria · « **Reply #23 on:** June 25, 2015, 01:01:56 PM »

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At our chapel the only women I have EVER seen without a veil and wearing pants are the odd NO'ers who stumble in unaware that they are not at any ordinary new order church. They really stand out with their spandex leggings, tight tank tops and flip-flops!

That reminds me of one couple we saw at the SSPX chapel one Sunday about ten years ago. Where they came from I do not know, but they, as you wrote, apparently stumbled in unaware that the church was not your typical anything goes parish in novus ordo-ville. The both of them were dressed as if they were about to go fishing. She had pants on and nothing on her head. What got me is that they both went up to Holy Communion. Nothing wrong with that and maybe it's just me, but had it been me, I would have been mortified at the way I was dressed and not having my head covered and would not have called further attention to myself by traipsing up the aisle to receive.

Alexandria · « **Reply #24 on:** June 25, 2015, 01:08:37 PM »

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At our chapel the only women I have EVER seen without a veil and wearing pants are the odd NO'ers who stumble in unaware that they are not at any ordinary new order church. They really stand out with their spandex leggings, tight tank tops and flip-flops!

That reminds me of one couple we saw at the SSPX chapel one Sunday about ten years ago. Where they came from I do not know, but they, as you wrote, apparently stumbled in unaware that the church was not your typical anything goes parish in novus ordo-ville. The both of them were dressed as if they were about to go fishing. She had pants on and nothing on her head. What got me is that they both went up to Holy Communion. Nothing wrong with that and maybe it's just me, but had it been me, I would have been mortified at the way I was dressed and not having my head covered and would not have called further attention to myself by traipsing up the aisle to receive.

Just wanted to add to this post that I think that goes along with an absence of any sense of shame in either men or women anymore. Everyone has "rights" these days. Everyone. :rolleyes: