Author Topic: SSPX priest retreat: families should have no more than 5 or 6 children (Read 9643 times)

Tiffany · « **Reply #30 on:** August 20, 2013, 10:02:55 AM »

Quote from: Luker

I watched this talk by Fr Pfieffer and thought it was quite good, it gave me much to think about.

But in regards to the young couple mentioned that were refused marriage, could it be a prudential decision of the priest because the young man say didn't yet have a decent full time job? a job that could support even a new family? So the priest asked them to wait a year to get their financial ducks in a row. Just asking, but it does concern me that the SSPX refuses/delays marriages. I have heard of other cases mentioned as well.

Luke

If that is the case maybe they want to be married and survive on minimum wage, that is their decision. If anything we should help make sure the young men have jobs, not postpone marriage.

Zeitun · « **Reply #31 on:** August 20, 2013, 10:40:15 AM »

Quote from: For Greater Glory

Tele said:
They want the girls to go for careers.
I can second that!

Because it feeds the parents egos?

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #32 on:** August 20, 2013, 10:47:41 AM »

Our job as parents is to populate heaven. Whatever children God gives you the responsibility to get there, is up to Him. The priests should not be dictating to the congregation how many children a family should have. That is GOD'S business and not theirs. If God deigned to send 3 children to one family, and 10 to another, that's HIS business. Surely if someone would be hindering the primary end of marriage, THEN something should be said, but a priest certainly SHOULD NOT try to say how many children is "too many."

Good grief, the flood of souls going to Hell now, is at a disturbing high, and the priests are going to say that Traditional Catholic families should only have LESS than 6 children? Who do they think they are!? GOD IS SENDING THE STRONGEST SOULS HERE NOW, for the battle is going to be even more difficult. This kind of counsel from a priest is nothing short of demonic.

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #33 on:** August 20, 2013, 10:56:37 AM »

You know what else is really unconscionable here?

The worldliness all around.

If there's a couple that knows that their vocation is marriage, they go to a priest, complete the requirements (which I've seen in Catholic manuals is no longer than 6 months courtship) and counsel, and the priest makes some excuse about poverty impinging on their RIGHT to become married, then there's a HUGE problem with that.

Look at our Divine Lord. He had NOTHING. Why is it such a stain to be poor now? The entire GOAL of the globalists running things is to DESTROY THE MIDDLE CLASS, so that EVERYONE that is not super wealthy will end up being poor. They have no children for the most part, and the rest of us should restrict how many we have, and not allow the rest to get married and help bring souls to heaven just because they are not well-to-do? This is absolutely insane.

Tiffany · « **Reply #34 on:** August 20, 2013, 10:59:05 AM »

Same attitude as many, these conservative ideals are good until it means not living a lifestyle they approve of.

Zeitun · « **Reply #35 on:** August 22, 2013, 11:43:01 PM »

The Resistance will overcome the NewSociety by out reproducing them.

:baby: :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby:

Maria Elizabeth · « **Reply #36 on:** August 24, 2013, 05:44:03 PM »

Quote from: Tiffany

Quote from: Luker
I watched this talk by Fr Pfieffer and thought it was quite good, it gave me much to think about.

But in regards to the young couple mentioned that were refused marriage, could it be a prudential decision of the priest because the young man say didn't yet have a decent full time job? a job that could support even a new family? So the priest asked them to wait a year to get their financial ducks in a row. Just asking, but it does concern me that the SSPX refuses/delays marriages. I have heard of other cases mentioned as well.

Luke
If that is the case maybe they want to be married and survive on minimum wage, that is their decision. If anything we should help make sure the young men have jobs, not postpone marriage.

I knew a couple who had been under instruction by a trad priest for over a year. The priest made them delay their marriage for over a year and kept putting off their wedding date. They wound up getting pregnant out of wedlock. Then they got married by the state and eventually by a NO priest. The trad priest eventually wound up baptizing their child.

All the delay was completely unnecessary. The trad priest should have just married them in the first place.

Zeitun · « **Reply #37 on:** August 24, 2013, 05:58:40 PM »

People can lose their Faith over being rejected by a Trad priest.

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #38 on:** August 24, 2013, 06:47:17 PM »

I was cleaning today, and found my marriage license, which bore the signature of Father Bolduc. :cry:

I really miss him.

1st Mansion Tenant · « **Reply #39 on:** August 24, 2013, 10:45:34 PM »

Maybe fewer children were recommended for financial reasons: The fewer children, the more extra money to put into the neo-SSPX collection plate.:sad:

Nadir · « **Reply #40 on:** August 25, 2013, 03:57:40 PM »

Quote from: Graham

I am open to correction, but it is my understanding that a priest cannot refuse a couple who fulfill the requirements of Church law. I cannot fathom on what basis the SSPX priest decided this couple is incapable of a valid marriage, but that is what he did. It seems to rest on the idea that they are too young.

This has the smell of a 'power trip' that went awry.

Could it be that they might have too many children - I mean more than the prescribed 5 or 6? :surprised: