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Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2019, 08:37:20 AM »
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  • I looked at his Instagram. He doesn't know how to spell "haboob." He'll have to learn now that he lives in Phoenix.

    He seems harmless...and STRAIGHT.

    Hooligan, it's not right to rip on some guy, especially considering nothing bad has happened! It makes you look like you have sour grapes.

    He might not be what you envision for a teacher, but there are good people of good will in the Novus Ordo, you know.

    Come to think of it, that guy seems a lot better than a certain boys' school teacher at Post Falls that was removed, who we are not to name. The one that had a certain "culpability."  ;)

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    « Reply #31 on: August 14, 2019, 02:20:31 PM »
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  • I looked at his Instagram. He doesn't know how to spell "haboob." He'll have to learn now that he lives in Phoenix.

    He seems harmless...and STRAIGHT.

    Hooligan, it's not right to rip on some guy, especially considering nothing bad has happened! It makes you look like you have sour grapes.

    He might not be what you envision for a teacher, but there are good people of good will in the Novus Ordo, you know.

    Come to think of it, that guy seems a lot better than a certain boys' school teacher at Post Falls that was removed, who we are not to name. The one that had a certain "culpability."  ;)
    You're right.  There truly are many good folk in the Novus Ordo and I'm actually not ripping this guy personally.  He appears to be a nice enough guy and probably has no idea what he signed on for at HFA.  At face value, I would hope that HFA might bring him to Tradition, but that's not really what they're about.  I'm actually ripping HFA and the elitist family that runs it.  They act like they are "Holier Than Thou" and more "Traditional Catholic than ABF himself", but they hire a Novus Ordo Principal and Novus Ordo teachers to teach the HFA kids who, according to them, "weren't receiving a sound and well-rounded Traditional Catholic education" at OLOSA.  Total BS.  Sorry, it is what it is, though.  Am I venting?  Yes.  They drained the Parish coffers and lined their pockets and, at the end of the day, they are just elitist fakes.
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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #32 on: August 15, 2019, 11:26:24 AM »
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    Hool: but they hire a Novus Ordo Principal and Novus Ordo teachers to teach the HFA kids who, according to them, "weren't receiving a sound and well-rounded Traditional Catholic education" at OLOSA.  Total BS.  Sorry, it is what it is, though.  Am I venting?  Yes.  They drained the Parish coffers and lined their pockets and, at the end of the day, they are just elitist fakes.


     
    Which begs the questions: Are sspx schools good for anything now, since, I speculate, a “well-rounded Traditional Catholic education” is not available in any of the sspx schools nation wide? Does the sspx serve any real purpose at all in the traditional world? And wouldn’t traditional Catholics be well advised to leave this shell of an apostalate behind, and seek refuge elsewhere?

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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #33 on: August 15, 2019, 12:00:23 PM »
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  • The SSPX is arguably culpable for not recognizing the influence and for not toppling the clique before the catastrophes.

    It sounds like this family has money. I have yet to live in a parish where the priests are not swayed by the sparkly families with money. Even the good ones surprise you sometimes by falling for it like anyone else. This is not a uniquely SSPX problem, that is true, but they are certainly not exempt. 

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    « Reply #34 on: August 15, 2019, 01:32:12 PM »
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  • You're right.  There truly are many good folk in the Novus Ordo and I'm actually not ripping this guy personally.  He appears to be a nice enough guy and probably has no idea what he signed on for at HFA.  At face value, I would hope that HFA might bring him to Tradition, but that's not really what they're about.  I'm actually ripping HFA and the elitist family that runs it.  They act like they are "Holier Than Thou" and more "Traditional Catholic than ABF himself", but they hire a Novus Ordo Principal and Novus Ordo teachers to teach the HFA kids who, according to them, "weren't receiving a sound and well-rounded Traditional Catholic education" at OLOSA.  Total BS.  Sorry, it is what it is, though.  Am I venting?  Yes.  They drained the Parish coffers and lined their pockets and, at the end of the day, they are just elitist fakes.
    Yeah, I'm willing to cut that young man a break.
    While it is true that OLOSA has its deficiencies, I would not say that the Traditional Catholicism part is one of them. I think the family wanted to open a school for other reasons, not because OLOSA wasn't "Catholic" enough.
    It is a mystery that after HFA is joining forces with the FSSP in such a formal way, that they are being allowed to stay in the parish. Fr. Remski was no friend to the SSPX. 
    I guess the SSPX priory figures they need their money in the Sunday collection plate, which collectively, must be a lot. Any other family that left the SSPX parish school to start their own would have been kicked out, post haste!


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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #35 on: August 15, 2019, 03:26:47 PM »
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  • …Fr. Remski was no friend to the SSPX.…
    You are familiar with what Fr. Remski did at St. Michael's in Bethany, OK?

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    « Reply #36 on: August 15, 2019, 04:28:49 PM »
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  • Lay government is the Protestant model (listen to this True Restoration episode on lay boards).
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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #37 on: August 15, 2019, 04:31:04 PM »
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  • The SSPX is arguably culpable for not recognizing the influence and for not toppling the clique before the catastrophes.
    This is analogous to the argument that the Church shares in the guilt of schismatics' having left the Church.
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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #38 on: August 15, 2019, 05:28:53 PM »
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  • You are familiar with what Fr. Remski did at St. Michael's in Bethany, OK?
    No, do tell...

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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
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  • It sounds like this family has money. I have yet to live in a parish where the priests are not swayed by the sparkly families with money. Even the good ones surprise you sometimes by falling for it like anyone else. This is not a uniquely SSPX problem, that is true, but they are certainly not exempt.
    Ay, you are correct about this family having wealth.  Unfortunately, quite a bit of their wealth came from the services that they provided to the Chapel and Academy.  Services for which OLOS paid top dollar. When you own the general contracting company that was awarded Church and Academy construction contracts - and you’re also the Treasurer who has contract awarding rights for the same said Church and Academy - you can’t lose. 
    Smartest guys in the room? They indeed think they are, but it’s not true because many Parishioners know what they did. We just don’t have any recourse but I to tell of their deceit and hope they are moving on to new prey.
    “They have nothing in their whole imperial arsenal that can break the spirit of one Irishman who doesn’t want to be broken.” - Bobby Sands

     

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