Mr. Johnson,

You asserted the physicality element of sports competition as a "key distinction." I referenced "spelling bees" as an example of how absurd your "key distinction" is, because girls have lost their "feminine reserve" in spelling bees, or any other competition - some referenced card games here. I also referenced the physical exertion of carrying a heavy load of laundry up the stairs. Does a woman lose her feminine reserve in doing so? Perhaps we should ban doing laundry loads of a certain weight to females.

I submit that any rational man would recognize that the physicality of sports is not the "key distinctive." You do your position no favors advancing such shoddy arguments. Indeed, Traditionalism itself - or any truth - can be hurt by such poor intellectual defense. Or by, as you have done, irrelevant argumentation fed by emotion and not reason.  

It is the competitive act. COMPETITION that is the distinctive factor in the subject to which we are adverting our minds.

It remains so whether a man contemplates it in pink panties or a three piece suit.

As an aside, I agree with you about women in pants, makeup, etc. We are dealing with intellectual rigor here (I hope), and not simply whether we agree with one another. Unprincipled agreement is easily exposed as inadequate when questioned by a rational interrogation. Prithee, let's strive to find adequate and supportive principles in defending truth.

By pointing out the problems with a man "privately" doing what you say you're perhaps starting to find the right groove to arriving at some kind of principle or truth.

DR

...because those activities are mere recreation, not sport (ie.  They do not typically provoke aggression, imposition of will, and the desire to dominate an adversary as a sport would).

I did not assert physicality is the distinguishing characteristic between sport and recreation.
I lay out the distinction in my previous post to Mark79

Clearly you are not a serious chess player.

He can stipulate all he wants. His principle - the physicality of sports - doesn't support his position. The loss of feminine reserve that also happens in those competitions undoes him. He hasn't identified the "key distinctive."

Physicality is not my principle, and you are wrong to attribute it to me:
My principle distinguishes between sport and recreation, and asserts the the former are not permissible for women because they elicit psychological reactions damaging to the feminine psyche, and in violation of the “prudent reserve” Pius XI required .

Typically… for whom?

I play chess as a matter of life and death (even within the family) and I play tennis and bicycle with women (within the family these days) recreationally.

I submit that the internal forum and modest dress are the key distinctions—hence require proper formation in both regards.

Typically… for whom?

I play chess as a matter of life and death (even within the family) and I play tennis and bicycle with women (within the family these days) recreationally.

I submit that the internal forum and modest dress are the key distinctions—hence require proper formation in both regards.