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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
« Reply #135 on: November 16, 2019, 10:25:16 AM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on November 16, 2019, 10:13:08 AM
    I absolutely stated girls have no business in sports, period.

    But you conveniently ignore that I also say that what you call “non-competitive sports” (eg., hiking, fishing, etc) are really not “sports” at all, but simple recreations.

    That part I "conveniently ignore" was added long after I objected to your initial unqualified statement.  There was nothing to ignore until you posted that 5 minutes ago.
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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #136 on: November 16, 2019, 10:26:54 AM »
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    • Quote from: Mark 79 on November 16, 2019, 10:23:47 AM
    Would you argue that playing a card or board game is sinful?  After all, someone wins, hence there is competition.

    Thank you.  He's unable to articulate anything on his own, so you have for force it out of him ... like playing Socrates.

    Is any competition among girls wrong?  That's step one to him unraveling his own emotional brain.
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    Offline SeanJohnson

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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #137 on: November 16, 2019, 10:29:31 AM »
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    • Quote from: Mark 79 on November 16, 2019, 10:23:47 AM
    Would you argue that playing a card or board game is sinful?  After all, someone wins, hence there is competition.
    The key distinction is sport vs recreation.
    Why?
    Because Pius XI said we had to be careful to protect feminine reserve.
    And where sport by nature excites the passions (thereby surrendering feminine reserve: think of the tennis player in the 1990’s going down to her knees after victory and ripping off her top in exuberance), recreations (eg., boardgames, hiking, fishing) do not elicit such passions, and therefore present no threat to feminine comportment or reserve.
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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #138 on: November 16, 2019, 10:30:28 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on November 16, 2019, 10:26:54 AM
    Thank you.  He's unable to articulate anything on his own, so you have for force it out of him ... like playing Socrates.

    Is any competition among girls wrong?  That's step one to him unraveling his own emotional brain.
    Refuted again (see previous post); victory after victory...
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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #139 on: November 16, 2019, 10:31:20 AM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on November 16, 2019, 10:24:49 AM
    To date, your resume includes:
    -defending women in pants
    -defending women in sports
    -defending women in makeup
    Not very traddy, it it?

    Everything above with distinctions and qualifications that you are incapable of grasping.  If being "traddy" means being an idiotic unthinking Jansenistic member of an Amish cult, then I'm happy to say that i'm not "traddy" ... whatever emotional litmus test you wish to apply to that amorphous term.

    Absolutely none of the above is intrinsically wrong and can be done, with qualifications.  You are a moron who makes all "trads" look bad.
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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #140 on: November 16, 2019, 10:32:00 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on November 16, 2019, 10:31:20 AM
    Everything above with distinctions and qualifications that you are incapable of grasping.  If being "traddy" means being an idiotic unthinking Jansenistic member of an Amish cult, then I'm happy to say that i'm not "traddy" ... whatever emotional litmus test you wish to apply to that amorphous term.

    Absolutely none of the above is intrinsically wrong and can be done, with qualifications.  You are a moron who makes all "trads" look bad.
    Are you Fr. Urrutigoity?

    Once again, one can only conclude your daughters wear the pants, makeup, and play sports, and that it is not all very traddy.
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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #141 on: November 16, 2019, 10:34:07 AM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on November 16, 2019, 10:29:31 AM
    The key distinction is sport vs recreation.
    Why?
    Because Pius XI said we had to be careful to protect feminine reserve.
    And where sport by nature excites the passions (thereby surrendering feminine reserve: think of the tennis player in the 1990’s going down to her knees after victory and ripping off her top in exuberance), recreations (eg., boardgames, hiking, fishing) do not elicit such passions, and therefore present no threat to feminine comportment or reserve.

    OK, you have now come a step closer to having a rational thought ... since it's been forced out of you.  Don't hurt yourself now.  Except that you make these idiotic caricatures about it somehow being inherent in sport to "rip [one's] top off in exuberance".  Not sure how much of your idiotic brain I can tolerate.

    So your current position, after your being unable to articulate your own emotions, is that competition combined with physical exertion is wrong.

    What about a competitive game of badminton?  Right or wrong for girls?
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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #142 on: November 16, 2019, 10:35:00 AM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on November 16, 2019, 10:29:31 AM
    …Because Pius XI said we had to be careful to protect feminine reserve.…
    There is nothing feminine about the many sows among us.
    I argue that moderate exercise dressed modestly protects feminine reserve.
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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #143 on: November 16, 2019, 10:38:29 AM »
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    • Quote from: Mark 79 on November 16, 2019, 10:35:00 AM
    There is nothing feminine about the many sows among us.
    I argue that moderate exercise dressed modestly protects feminine reserve.
    ...and is not a sport, but a recreation.
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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #144 on: November 16, 2019, 10:38:49 AM »
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    • Any kind of "competition" can violate "feminine reserve".  It's all about how you pretend to apply, misapply, or distort the meaning of the term.
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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #145 on: November 16, 2019, 10:39:44 AM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on November 16, 2019, 10:32:00 AM
    Are you Fr. Urrutigoity?

    Yet another rational argument from the great theological luminary of our time.
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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #146 on: November 16, 2019, 10:40:39 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on November 16, 2019, 10:34:07 AM
    OK, you have now come a step closer to having a rational thought ... since it's been forced out of you.  Don't hurt yourself now.  Except that you make these idiotic caricatures about it somehow being inherent in sport to "rip [one's] top off in exuberance".  Not sure how much of your idiotic brain I can tolerate.

    So your current position, after your being unable to articulate your own emotions, is that competition combined with physical exertion is wrong.

    What about a competitive game of badminton?  Right or wrong for girls?
    On the contrary:
    It seems you have temporarily pulled your head out of your butt, but I’m sure it will be reinserted soon.
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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #147 on: November 16, 2019, 10:45:44 AM »
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    • Quote from: Mark 79 on November 16, 2019, 10:23:47 AM
    Would you argue that playing a card or board game is sinful?  After all, someone wins, hence there is competition.

    Not allowed in a traditional Catholic home. 

    It brings out their "competitiveness" and manly qualities.

    Plus, when they lose and get up from the table angry, it's hard for them to restrain their "boobs".
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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #148 on: November 16, 2019, 10:48:18 AM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on November 16, 2019, 10:29:31 AM

    The key distinction is sport vs recreation.
    Why?
    Because Pius XI said we had to be careful to protect feminine reserve.
    And where sport by nature excites the passions (thereby surrendering feminine reserve: think of the tennis player in the 1990’s going down to her knees after victory and ripping off her top in exuberance), recreations (eg., boardgames, hiking, fishing) do not elicit such passions, and therefore present no threat to feminine comportment or reserve.

    Are spelling bees sports or recreation? Just wondering on your “key distinction” in light of my personal experience.
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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #149 on: November 16, 2019, 10:48:28 AM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on November 16, 2019, 10:45:44 AM
    Not allowed in a traditional Catholic home.  

    It brings out their "competitiveness" and manly qualities.

    Plus, when they lose and get up from the table angry, it's hard for them to restrain their "boobs".
    You would make less an ass of yourself if you paid a bit closer attention.
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