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Offline homeschoolmom

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Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
« Reply #30 on: August 15, 2019, 12:00:23 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mark 79 on August 10, 2019, 01:27:32 AM
    The SSPX is arguably culpable for not recognizing the influence and for not toppling the clique before the catastrophes.

    It sounds like this family has money. I have yet to live in a parish where the priests are not swayed by the sparkly families with money. Even the good ones surprise you sometimes by falling for it like anyone else. This is not a uniquely SSPX problem, that is true, but they are certainly not exempt. 
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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #31 on: August 15, 2019, 01:32:12 PM »
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    • Quote from: HOOLIGAN4HIRE on August 14, 2019, 02:20:31 PM
    You're right.  There truly are many good folk in the Novus Ordo and I'm actually not ripping this guy personally.  He appears to be a nice enough guy and probably has no idea what he signed on for at HFA.  At face value, I would hope that HFA might bring him to Tradition, but that's not really what they're about.  I'm actually ripping HFA and the elitist family that runs it.  They act like they are "Holier Than Thou" and more "Traditional Catholic than ABF himself", but they hire a Novus Ordo Principal and Novus Ordo teachers to teach the HFA kids who, according to them, "weren't receiving a sound and well-rounded Traditional Catholic education" at OLOSA.  Total BS.  Sorry, it is what it is, though.  Am I venting?  Yes.  They drained the Parish coffers and lined their pockets and, at the end of the day, they are just elitist fakes.
    Yeah, I'm willing to cut that young man a break.
    While it is true that OLOSA has its deficiencies, I would not say that the Traditional Catholicism part is one of them. I think the family wanted to open a school for other reasons, not because OLOSA wasn't "Catholic" enough.
    It is a mystery that after HFA is joining forces with the FSSP in such a formal way, that they are being allowed to stay in the parish. Fr. Remski was no friend to the SSPX. 
    I guess the SSPX priory figures they need their money in the Sunday collection plate, which collectively, must be a lot. Any other family that left the SSPX parish school to start their own would have been kicked out, post haste!
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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #32 on: August 15, 2019, 03:26:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: Smedley Butler on August 15, 2019, 01:32:12 PM
    …Fr. Remski was no friend to the SSPX.…
    You are familiar with what Fr. Remski did at St. Michael's in Bethany, OK?
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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #33 on: August 15, 2019, 04:28:49 PM »
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    • Lay government is the Protestant model (listen to this True Restoration episode on lay boards).
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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #34 on: August 15, 2019, 04:31:04 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mark 79 on August 10, 2019, 01:27:32 AM
    The SSPX is arguably culpable for not recognizing the influence and for not toppling the clique before the catastrophes.
    This is analogous to the argument that the Church shares in the guilt of schismatics' having left the Church.
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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #35 on: August 15, 2019, 05:28:53 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mark 79 on August 15, 2019, 03:26:47 PM
    You are familiar with what Fr. Remski did at St. Michael's in Bethany, OK?
    No, do tell...
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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #36 on: August 18, 2019, 06:12:26 PM »
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    • Quote from: homeschoolmom on August 15, 2019, 12:00:23 PM
    It sounds like this family has money. I have yet to live in a parish where the priests are not swayed by the sparkly families with money. Even the good ones surprise you sometimes by falling for it like anyone else. This is not a uniquely SSPX problem, that is true, but they are certainly not exempt.
    Ay, you are correct about this family having wealth.  Unfortunately, quite a bit of their wealth came from the services that they provided to the Chapel and Academy.  Services for which OLOS paid top dollar. When you own the general contracting company that was awarded Church and Academy construction contracts - and you’re also the Treasurer who has contract awarding rights for the same said Church and Academy - you can’t lose. 
    Smartest guys in the room? They indeed think they are, but it’s not true because many Parishioners know what they did. We just don’t have any recourse but I to tell of their deceit and hope they are moving on to new prey.
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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #37 on: November 08, 2019, 05:04:07 PM »
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    • TRADITIONAL CATHOLIC MODESTY FOR YOUNG LADIES AT HOLY FAMILY ACADEMY??
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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #38 on: November 12, 2019, 07:38:35 PM »
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    • Quote from: HOOLIGAN4HIRE on November 08, 2019, 05:04:07 PM
    TRADITIONAL CATHOLIC MODESTY FOR YOUNG LADIES AT HOLY FAMILY ACADEMY??
    Yes this just another example of OLoS and district overlooking the behavior of the HFA families .I know personality of people who have complained to district only to be told they are guilty of backbiting for doing so 
    Meanwhile ,
    I have heard that FSSP has turned down the HFA request to be under the FSSP spiritual wing as they say .This has put a damper on their expansion plans 
      
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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #39 on: November 12, 2019, 09:23:19 PM »
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    • Quote from: HOOLIGAN4HIRE on November 08, 2019, 05:04:07 PM
    TRADITIONAL CATHOLIC MODESTY FOR YOUNG LADIES AT HOLY FAMILY ACADEMY??

    Why... how dare those neo-trad girls wear culottes while playing sports and expose their bare knees!

    This is an outrage.... 
    Close the school down!  :really-mad2:
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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #40 on: November 12, 2019, 11:19:56 PM »
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    • For what it's worth, to those interested, the National Council of Catholic Women in America passed the following resolution on athletic dress for women in 1928, which received the approbation of Cardinal Sbarretti and Pius XI for promoting the cause of Catholic modesty among women:

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    WHEREAS careful study of costumes made by the best sports-goods houses and used by the majority of private and public schools and colleges, leads to the conclusion that the necessary requirements for an appropriate costume for the girl and young woman in athletics may be met by the knicker-bloomer of material suited to the season; middie [sic] Blouses for children; tailored shirts with long (or short) sleeves for older girls; sweaters, sleeveless or with sleeves according to season; long stockings and "sneakers;"

    BE IT RESOLVED that the National Council of Catholic Women recommend the above costume as best suited to feminine dignity and the best interest of sportsmanship and good health.

    BE IT RESOLVED that the Council condemn "trunks" and other such objectionable extremes of costume which are as inappropriate and undesirable for women as are the particular forms of athletics with which they are especially associated.

    The following blog post shows pictures from the decade that show you what that dress would have looked like: https://fascinationstreetvintage.wordpress.com/2015/06/16/1920s-womens-sportswear/

    As Abp. John McNicholas of Cincinnati said to the above group: "The lives of our Catholic women must be a manifest challenge to the women of the whole world..." Of course, manifest means visible and obvious. Maybe this issue isn't one to write in all caps about, but it's certainly a sign.
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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #41 on: November 13, 2019, 09:58:24 AM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on November 12, 2019, 09:23:19 PM

    Why... how dare those neo-trad girls wear culottes while playing sports and expose their bare knees!

    This is an outrage....
    Close the school down!  :really-mad2:

    Sounds like the mocking poster has been slow boiled over the years to think that it is "modest compared to the rest of the world".  
    Their legs should not be exposed like that at any time in public, whether they are wearing a skirt or dress to mass or in an athletic field.. The coach on the right is the worst offender. Even worse, they look like spandex tights, which is just wearing underwear on the outside. If they are spandex shorts, they are running around in their underwear. Now that is really slow boiling over time, "trads" wearing underwear on the outside.
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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #42 on: November 13, 2019, 10:06:53 AM »
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    • I can assure you that my friend Incredulous is quite humorous, playful, and not "boiled" to any degree.
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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #43 on: November 13, 2019, 10:12:34 AM »
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    • Quote from: Mark 79 on November 13, 2019, 10:06:53 AM
    I can assure you that my friend Incredulous is quite humorous, playful, and not "boiled" to any degree.
    I rarely look at the name of a poster. One can make a joke, no problem, but they should follow it up with a lesson, the truth, or else it could end up teaching the totally wrong thing.
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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #44 on: November 13, 2019, 08:00:30 PM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on November 12, 2019, 09:23:19 PM
    Why... how dare those neo-trad girls wear culottes while playing sports and expose their bare knees!

    This is an outrage....
    Close the school down!  :really-mad2:
    Ahhh sarcasm, a truly low example of humor
    but the fact remains if these same young woman were at the sspx academy they would not be wearing these modernist outfits .One must what else in their education has been given over to modernism and secular ideals
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