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Offline Frank

Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
« Reply #265 on: November 17, 2019, 09:24:38 PM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on November 17, 2019, 09:15:05 PM
To play volleyball in this way is manly.  You can play fun, recreational, even competitive volleyball without diving and sliding on your knees.  It is not a right for women to play in such a way, and such actions are masculine if they cannot be played properly in a skirt.
Beautiful. Well said!
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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
« Reply #266 on: November 17, 2019, 09:32:22 PM »
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Some of you would reject 90% of the Catholic moral theology manuals written before Vatican II ... because you know better.
In the 1950s, most women would've been shamed as whores had they worn the mini-skirt w/ leggings combo you posted.  They also wouldn't have been playing volleyball in gym class (because they would've been doing something more in line with their gender's natural talents, like "Home Econ" classes).  You are the one who is arguing that such dress is "not that bad" and history is not on your side.  You're a fashion revisionist.


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You can do what you want yourselves, but the problem I have is when you constantly presume to impute sin to others.  You need to mind your own business, and let others works out their consciences with their confessors ... who have actually had real training in moral theology.
As you already admitted on this thread that you have little, if any, moral theology training, then your blind accusations of prude-ishness are laughable.  We live in one of the GREATEST most immoral cultures that may have ever existed in history, and you're defending the slow, slippery-slope slide of Trad girls into moral and fashion lukewarmness as if there were some moral imperative that they be able to dress in ways that are "only a venial sin".  This is madness and you are way off on this topic. 
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Offline Incredulous

Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
« Reply #267 on: November 17, 2019, 09:34:38 PM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on November 17, 2019, 09:15:05 PM
To play volleyball in this way is manly.  You can play fun, recreational, even competitive volleyball without diving and sliding on your knees.  It is not a right for women to play in such a way, and such actions are masculine if they cannot be played properly in a skirt.
 
PV,

I just realized you are not of this world... :pray:

You should have become a Holy religious Monk.

Not a Monk specializing in beer making, but probably bread or fudge :incense:



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Offline Frank

Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
« Reply #268 on: November 17, 2019, 09:43:05 PM »
Quote from: Incredulous on November 17, 2019, 09:34:38 PM

PV,

I just realized you are not of this world... :pray:

You should have become a Holy religious Monk.

Not a Monk specializing in beer making, but probably bread or fudge :incense:
I would say that PV is interested in getting to heaven, and refuses to be put to sleep by worldly amusements and liberal standards.
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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
« Reply #269 on: November 17, 2019, 09:43:56 PM »
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I just realized you are not of this world... 

You should have become a Holy religious Monk.
I've been to countless church picnics and graduation parties where volleyball is played by men and women.  The games were filled with athleticism and great play.  Women didn't need to dive around on the ground to help win.  (And most men who were good knew how to anticipate the next shot and moved their feet instead of diving on the ground, which is not that efficient of a play).
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The overarching question is:  What role does sports play in society?  Is it being played for fun, for exercise...or for some other reason?  You can't bend the rules of modesty (in either gender) just for sport's sake.  "Well, I could play better if I was wearing different clothes."  Ok, probably true.  But how important is competition and winning, as compared to modesty and scandalizing our neighbor, not to mention our own soul?
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Until we realize that sports is one of the gods of modernism (along with technology, food, health, fitness and entertainment), then we can't see that to lower our modesty standards for sports is a huge problem.
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