Author Topic: Hiring a Hall (Read 3224 times)

John Grace · « **Reply #5 on:** June 11, 2013, 01:49:57 PM »

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The mood though in Ireland is to remain in Society chapels. I don't believe people will leave en masse.

Likewise here in the States. I believe the word I've heard bandied about is "comfortable".

Most are "Latin Mass"-ers with no real clue as to why they are there or what the fight is all about.

I believe the numbers of the Resistance will be in similar proportion to the number that went with Tradition from the original Catholic Church (maybe 5%?)........in other words, very small.

+Williamson pretty much foresees this as you say, a small portion
will remain faithful and the majority will be swept away, just as it
happened at Vat.II.

He likens it to a swinging pendulum that takes out a swath of the
faithful with each downward swing. The protestant revolt was
a swing, then the French Revolution was another, and Vat.II was
another. Now it's the SSPX crisis. "It's perfectly normal that this
would happen this way."

That doesn't make it any more acceptable BTW.

It would be naive to believe the vast majority will support and resist. I believe it will be small groups here and there, who remain part of the resistance.

John Grace · « **Reply #6 on:** June 11, 2013, 01:52:11 PM »

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I am open to assisting in hiring a hall or suitable venue for the resistance in Ireland. We have Fr Bufe up North and by the grace of God, priests can come to Ireland.

I'm not calling on SSPX laity in Ireland to leave chapels but it is a matter for their conscience.

I realise SSPX laity will disagree and I may become an object of ridicule but my question is why have the Irish priests of the SSPX remained silent. It's not good enough and we are at war.

I happily gave them the benefit of the doubt but how much longer must one wait for them?

There is mixed opinion on remaining in SSPX chapels. Strong arguments on both sides but my support is for the resistance.

John Grace,

On another thread, I was asking if you knew where Fr. Bufe is residing in Ireland. Do you know where "up north" he is?

A contact address was given on the In This Sign You Shall Conquer website.

It's actually easier for me to get Mass in England than in Ireland. Unbelievable but true.

Ekim · « **Reply #7 on:** June 11, 2013, 02:06:37 PM »

Our chapel here in the states has little support to the resistance. Most have helped start the chapel and saw it move from random hotel rooms to the solid edifice they have now. Many are second generation and have no real desire for the fight their parents had. They grew up in the chapel and it is "Comfortable", it's still Latin, and on the surface all things seem to be the same...sorta. Unless there is a HUGE change, I don't see our resistance group getting much larger than the 20 to 30 people who come for the resistance Mass.

Sienna629 · « **Reply #8 on:** June 11, 2013, 03:08:10 PM »

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Our chapel here in the states has little support to the resistance. Most have helped start the chapel and saw it move from random hotel rooms to the solid edifice they have now. Many are second generation and have no real desire for the fight their parents had. They grew up in the chapel and it is "Comfortable", it's still Latin, and on the surface all things seem to be the same...sorta. Unless there is a HUGE change, I don't see our resistance group getting much larger than the 20 to 30 people who come for the resistance Mass.

BINGO!!!!

BTW, 20 or 30 is really good! We'd be lucky to get 8-10 from our Chapel.

Wessex · « **Reply #9 on:** June 11, 2013, 07:00:26 PM »

The dissidents must widen their audience to accommodate other non-SSPX trads. If they reject the help of SVs they will be losing that population that left the Society over the years. Ditto if Bp. W keeps away from independent apotolates.