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Title: Hideous New SSPX Church in Madrid!
Post by: Geremia on July 23, 2016, 08:51:29 PM
Quote from: NovusOrdoWatch
Dedication scheduled for July 25
House of Horrors:
Hideous New SSPX Church in Madrid (https://novusordowatch.org/wire/hideous-sspx-church-madrid.htm)

(https://novusordowatch.org/_Media/sspx-church-madrid2_med.jpeg) (https://novusordowatch.org/_Media/sspx-church-madrid2.jpeg)

In Madrid, the capital of Spain, the Society of St. Pius X spent the last few years building a new church. The building has now been completed, and the solemn dedication ceremony is scheduled (http://www.fsspx.es/es/news-events/calendar/bendición-nueva-capilla-santiago-apóstol-17099) for this coming Monday, July 25, which coincides with the parish’s titular feast, for the church is dedicated to St. James the Greater, Apostle.
Normally, none of this would be news, for the SSPX builds new parish churches around the globe all the time. The case of St. James the Apostle Church in Madrid, however, is different, because the exterior of the now-completed building is so hideous that it might as well be a Novus Ordo church. One may also easily mistake it for an office building, a library, or worse.
Here are a few sample pictures of this monstrosity (click each photo to enlarge). Make no mistake about it, this church is no longer under construction — it’s done!

(https://novusordowatch.org/_Media/sspx-church-madrid3_med.jpeg) (https://novusordowatch.org/_Media/sspx-church-madrid3.jpeg)
The outer facade facing the main road
(https://novusordowatch.org/_Media/sspx-church-madrid7_med.jpeg) (https://novusordowatch.org/_Media/sspx-church-madrid7.jpeg)
Another view of the same
(https://novusordowatch.org/_Media/sspx-church-madrid8_med.jpeg) (https://novusordowatch.org/_Media/sspx-church-madrid8.jpeg)
The SSPX logo is plastered all over the outer wall
(https://novusordowatch.org/_Media/sspx-church-madrid4_med.jpeg) (https://novusordowatch.org/_Media/sspx-church-madrid4.jpeg)
These interesting windows face a side street
(https://novusordowatch.org/_Media/sspx-church-madrid9_med.jpeg) (https://novusordowatch.org/_Media/sspx-church-madrid9.jpeg)
A wider view
(https://novusordowatch.org/_Media/sspx-church-madrid10_med.jpeg) (https://novusordowatch.org/_Media/sspx-church-madrid10.jpeg)
A view from the corner

You can check this out for yourself. Simply go to Google Maps (https://www.google.com/maps) and use Street View for the following address: Calle de Catalina Suárez, 16, 28007 Madrid, Spain.
By the way, did you notice the odd-looking statue at the top of the building? Here is a close-up:
(https://novusordowatch.org/_Media/sspx-church-madrid1_med.jpeg) (https://novusordowatch.org/_Media/sspx-church-madrid1.jpeg)

What is this? The Grim Reaper? Actually, it is supposed to be the Blessed Virgin Mary, to whom the SSPX claims to be especially devoted. Here is a closer view still:
(https://novusordowatch.org/_Media/sspx-church-madrid6_med.jpeg) (https://novusordowatch.org/_Media/sspx-church-madrid6.jpeg)

No eyes, no mouth, and just a hideous overall appearance. How much this must have cost? Or perhaps it was a gift from the local Masonic Lodge?
Lots more photos of the church, both during and after construction, can be found at the following links:

The Frightening New Church of the SSPX in Spain (http://brasildogmadafe.blogspot.ca/2015/11/the-disgusting-new-church-being-built.html)
Obras de la Capilla Santiago Apóstol, semana tras semanas (http://tradicioncatolica.es/donativos-bienhechores/obras-de-la-futura-capilla-santiago-apostol-semana-tras-semanas/)
La Neo-FSSPX invita a la Bendición de la Capilla esperpéntica de Madrid (http://nonpossumus-vcr.blogspot.com/2016/07/la-neo-fsspx-invita-la-bendicion-de-la.html)
Capilla de arquitectura moderna para la FSSPX (http://statveritasblog.blogspot.com/2015/11/capilla-de-arquitectura-moderna-para-la.html)
La Horrorosa Neo Iglesia de la Neo FSSPX en España (http://syllabus-errorum.blogspot.mx/2015/11/la-horrorosa-neo-iglesia-de-la-neo.html)
Polemica arquitectura modernista de la Capilla de la FSSPX en Madrid España (http://marienburgmagazine.blogspot.com/2016/01/polemica-arquitectura-modernista-de-la.html)


Bp. Alfonso de Galarreta is the District Superior for Spain and Portugal and will presumably be the celebrant for the dedication on July 25. No doubt we will get plenty more photos in a few days.
Not much commentary is needed here. It seems that in Madrid the Lefebvrians are trying to out-Novus-Ordo the Novus Ordo, at least as far as exterior church architecture goes. No doubt, with this new Capilla de Santiago Apóstol — Chapel of St. James the Apostle — the SSPX will be yet another step closer to being fully accepted by Modernist Rome. At this point, the writing is, even quite literally, on the wall.

See Also:

An Infernal Dungeon: Berkeley’s “Catholic” Campus Chapel (https://novusordowatch.org/wire/an-infernal-dungeon.htm)
Novus Ordo Monster Altars! (https://novusordowatch.org/wire/novus-ordo-monster-altars.htm)
Churches from Hell (http://www.traditioninaction.org/RevolutionPhotos/A364rcChurchHell.html)
Stage Diving, Pornography & more: “Cardinal” Schonborn’s “Youth Masses” (https://novusordowatch.org/wire/schonborns-youth-mass-2008.htm)
Blasphemy in Concrete: “Holy Family” Church in Italy (https://novusordowatch.org/wire/holy-family-church-salerno.htm)
Compare and Contrast: The “Great Renewal” (https://novusordowatch.org/wire/novus-ordo-logic-mass.htm)
Catholic vs. Novus Ordo Churches: Easy to see the difference (https://novusordowatch.org/wire/time-to-wake-up.htm)
Have the Gates of Hell prevailed against the Church? (https://novusordowatch.org/wire/gates-of-hell-prevailed.htm)
OK, so… NOW WHAT?! (https://novusordowatch.org/now-what.htm) - How to be a real Catholic today
Title: Hideous New SSPX Church in Madrid!
Post by: Croix de Fer on July 23, 2016, 10:32:43 PM
Luciferian with the irreverent, diluted, ambiguous statue and the aesthetic emphasis on triangles /pyramids with the facade of beams on the roof. The large circled window also represents the eye of false deity Horus or the "all seeing eye". It also represents "illumination".

Plum ugly building.
Title: Hideous New SSPX Church in Madrid!
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on July 23, 2016, 11:18:16 PM
What does the inside look like?
Title: Hideous New SSPX Church in Madrid!
Post by: Cantarella on July 23, 2016, 11:25:08 PM
That horror seems like a typical design of Jews, with its characteristic ugliness and emptiness, lacking all Christian beauty or reverence and running opposite to the Catholic spirit of order and magnificence. This ugliness of modern Jєωιѕн art and architecture is found everywhere nowadays. It is overwhelming.
Title: Hideous New SSPX Church in Madrid!
Post by: Geremia on July 23, 2016, 11:37:14 PM
Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey
What does the inside look like?
From the nonpossumus-vcr.blogspot.com post (https://nonpossumus-vcr.blogspot.com/2016/07/la-neo-fsspx-invita-la-bendicion-de-la.html?m=1):
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-k2ZTmGgQu-0/V5PUG-sV3zI/AAAAAAAAD9Y/x7gvyD_dgfMdbL3HM5jF5P_SrTeYlZlkgCLcB/s1600/IMG_4992%2B%25281%2529.JPG) (https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-k2ZTmGgQu-0/V5PUG-sV3zI/AAAAAAAAD9Y/x7gvyD_dgfMdbL3HM5jF5P_SrTeYlZlkgCLcB/s1600/IMG_4992%2B%25281%2529.JPG)
Title: Hideous New SSPX Church in Madrid!
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on July 23, 2016, 11:38:48 PM
Much of the art today is plain ugly.  Looks like a slap stick job.

I remember attending an art festival many years ago where the
public can vote.
The picture that won first prize of $1000.00 turned out that a bucket
of mixed paint was thrown on a canvas by a child.
Absolutely no taste and no appreciation for true talented art.
Title: Hideous New SSPX Church in Madrid!
Post by: JezusDeKoning on July 24, 2016, 10:52:15 AM
Quote from: Geremia
Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey
What does the inside look like?
From the nonpossumus-vcr.blogspot.com post (https://nonpossumus-vcr.blogspot.com/2016/07/la-neo-fsspx-invita-la-bendicion-de-la.html?m=1):
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-k2ZTmGgQu-0/V5PUG-sV3zI/AAAAAAAAD9Y/x7gvyD_dgfMdbL3HM5jF5P_SrTeYlZlkgCLcB/s1600/IMG_4992%2B%25281%2529.JPG) (https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-k2ZTmGgQu-0/V5PUG-sV3zI/AAAAAAAAD9Y/x7gvyD_dgfMdbL3HM5jF5P_SrTeYlZlkgCLcB/s1600/IMG_4992%2B%25281%2529.JPG)


I'll bite: the inside is not that bad. I've seen pre-Vatican II churches that look like that.
Title: Hideous New SSPX Church in Madrid!
Post by: Geremia on July 24, 2016, 04:44:36 PM
Not just commercially, but among parishioners, skills certainly do exist. For example, the FSSP church in Phoenix—an ex-Baptist, Catholicized church—was renovated in large part by a good fraction of artistic parishioners.

Before renovation:
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_oN5K_WcO5JM/TRQnhw8ciEI/AAAAAAAAHxA/OLTFqcNlSoo/s1600/Before.jpg)
After renovation:
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/_oN5K_WcO5JM/TRQoUNgJb2I/AAAAAAAAHxI/KRiyVdSH7eU/s1600/After.jpg)
(images courtesy NLM (http://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/2010/12/renovation-mater-misericordiae-mission.html#.V5U0aIati00))

All the painting and wallpapering in the sanctuary was done by artistic parishioners. The St. Mary and Joseph status were sculpted and painted by a single parishioner. The tabernacle was built by the priest. The "marble" is really wood that parishioners painted to look like marble. The arch, which has the words of the Mater Misericordiæ prayer (partially seen in the image above), was traced by using an overhead projector and painstakingly painted by a few parishioners.

This all took less than a year. It really shows what can be done with parishioner involvement and not just some "firms."
Title: Hideous New SSPX Church in Madrid!
Post by: Geremia on July 24, 2016, 04:49:43 PM
This Madrid SSPX church clearly wasn't designed by a Catholic architect like Duncan Stroik (http://www.stroik.com/).
Title: Hideous New SSPX Church in Madrid!
Post by: Wessex on July 25, 2016, 04:09:34 AM
A confusing building indicative of the organisation and the religion it promotes. The best interpretation we can make is that the brand has now been packaged and is ready for marketing as a 'fast food' solution for busy apartment dwellers wanting a little updated nostalgia. What is missing is a Starbucks refreshment concession.

The Society has never been big on architectural taste; too much time has been spent in make-shift buildings and hotels, even tents, that is has forgotten what old churches looked like. I know some of the older generation were shocked at what had become of the 'house of God' in the hands of the Society and had decided to give it a miss. Crude minimalism was not for them; the psychological adjustment was just too great to make.

If form follows function in this case, then I expect the expanse of tradition is being trimmed down to suit the modern age and no doubt the current management will be congratulating themselves in stealing a march on their rivals on how to deal with the redundancy of the old. My reaction is to rush back to those cathedrals and churches that have not been mutilated and ignore the rubbish that is going on inside!    
Title: Hideous New SSPX Church in Madrid!
Post by: Prayerful on July 25, 2016, 05:54:51 AM
This was the site of the pharmacy donated to the SSPX. Many of the neighbours are hostile. The City Council is divided between the Opus Dei controlled PP and leftists who detest the faith. This pompous insurance company look was probably what was needed to get the structure built. Now, I've read many locally who hear Mass at an SSPX chapel are fairly unhappy, there is a promise to fix it. The external frame could have supported a nice Neo-Classical style. That might not have been possible. At least the statue should be fixed.
Title: Hideous New SSPX Church in Madrid!
Post by: Lover of Truth on July 25, 2016, 07:54:58 AM
Quote from: Geremia
Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey
What does the inside look like?
From the nonpossumus-vcr.blogspot.com post (https://nonpossumus-vcr.blogspot.com/2016/07/la-neo-fsspx-invita-la-bendicion-de-la.html?m=1):
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-k2ZTmGgQu-0/V5PUG-sV3zI/AAAAAAAAD9Y/x7gvyD_dgfMdbL3HM5jF5P_SrTeYlZlkgCLcB/s1600/IMG_4992%2B%25281%2529.JPG) (https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-k2ZTmGgQu-0/V5PUG-sV3zI/AAAAAAAAD9Y/x7gvyD_dgfMdbL3HM5jF5P_SrTeYlZlkgCLcB/s1600/IMG_4992%2B%25281%2529.JPG)


Who is that lady supposed to be?  Is this the first creation of her?
Title: Hideous New SSPX Church in Madrid!
Post by: mw2016 on July 26, 2016, 11:09:05 AM
Quote from: Geremia
Quote from: NovusOrdoWatch
Dedication scheduled for July 25
House of Horrors:
Hideous New SSPX Church in Madrid (https://novusordowatch.org/wire/hideous-sspx-church-madrid.htm)

(https://novusordowatch.org/_Media/sspx-church-madrid2_med.jpeg) (https://novusordowatch.org/_Media/sspx-church-madrid2.jpeg)

In Madrid, the capital of Spain, the Society of St. Pius X spent the last few years building a new church. The building has now been completed, and the solemn dedication ceremony is scheduled (http://www.fsspx.es/es/news-events/calendar/bendición-nueva-capilla-santiago-apóstol-17099) for this coming Monday, July 25, which coincides with the parish’s titular feast, for the church is dedicated to St. James the Greater, Apostle.
Normally, none of this would be news, for the SSPX builds new parish churches around the globe all the time. The case of St. James the Apostle Church in Madrid, however, is different, because the exterior of the now-completed building is so hideous that it might as well be a Novus Ordo church. One may also easily mistake it for an office building, a library, or worse.
Here are a few sample pictures of this monstrosity (click each photo to enlarge). Make no mistake about it, this church is no longer under construction — it’s done!

(https://novusordowatch.org/_Media/sspx-church-madrid3_med.jpeg) (https://novusordowatch.org/_Media/sspx-church-madrid3.jpeg)
The outer facade facing the main road
(https://novusordowatch.org/_Media/sspx-church-madrid7_med.jpeg) (https://novusordowatch.org/_Media/sspx-church-madrid7.jpeg)
Another view of the same
(https://novusordowatch.org/_Media/sspx-church-madrid8_med.jpeg) (https://novusordowatch.org/_Media/sspx-church-madrid8.jpeg)
The SSPX logo is plastered all over the outer wall
(https://novusordowatch.org/_Media/sspx-church-madrid4_med.jpeg) (https://novusordowatch.org/_Media/sspx-church-madrid4.jpeg)
These interesting windows face a side street
(https://novusordowatch.org/_Media/sspx-church-madrid9_med.jpeg) (https://novusordowatch.org/_Media/sspx-church-madrid9.jpeg)
A wider view
(https://novusordowatch.org/_Media/sspx-church-madrid10_med.jpeg) (https://novusordowatch.org/_Media/sspx-church-madrid10.jpeg)
A view from the corner

You can check this out for yourself. Simply go to Google Maps (https://www.google.com/maps) and use Street View for the following address: Calle de Catalina Suárez, 16, 28007 Madrid, Spain.
By the way, did you notice the odd-looking statue at the top of the building? Here is a close-up:
(https://novusordowatch.org/_Media/sspx-church-madrid1_med.jpeg) (https://novusordowatch.org/_Media/sspx-church-madrid1.jpeg)

What is this? The Grim Reaper? Actually, it is supposed to be the Blessed Virgin Mary, to whom the SSPX claims to be especially devoted. Here is a closer view still:
(https://novusordowatch.org/_Media/sspx-church-madrid6_med.jpeg) (https://novusordowatch.org/_Media/sspx-church-madrid6.jpeg)

No eyes, no mouth, and just a hideous overall appearance. How much this must have cost? Or perhaps it was a gift from the local Masonic Lodge?
Lots more photos of the church, both during and after construction, can be found at the following links:

The Frightening New Church of the SSPX in Spain (http://brasildogmadafe.blogspot.ca/2015/11/the-disgusting-new-church-being-built.html)
Obras de la Capilla Santiago Apóstol, semana tras semanas (http://tradicioncatolica.es/donativos-bienhechores/obras-de-la-futura-capilla-santiago-apostol-semana-tras-semanas/)
La Neo-FSSPX invita a la Bendición de la Capilla esperpéntica de Madrid (http://nonpossumus-vcr.blogspot.com/2016/07/la-neo-fsspx-invita-la-bendicion-de-la.html)
Capilla de arquitectura moderna para la FSSPX (http://statveritasblog.blogspot.com/2015/11/capilla-de-arquitectura-moderna-para-la.html)
La Horrorosa Neo Iglesia de la Neo FSSPX en España (http://syllabus-errorum.blogspot.mx/2015/11/la-horrorosa-neo-iglesia-de-la-neo.html)
Polemica arquitectura modernista de la Capilla de la FSSPX en Madrid España (http://marienburgmagazine.blogspot.com/2016/01/polemica-arquitectura-modernista-de-la.html)


Bp. Alfonso de Galarreta is the District Superior for Spain and Portugal and will presumably be the celebrant for the dedication on July 25. No doubt we will get plenty more photos in a few days.
Not much commentary is needed here. It seems that in Madrid the Lefebvrians are trying to out-Novus-Ordo the Novus Ordo, at least as far as exterior church architecture goes. No doubt, with this new Capilla de Santiago Apóstol — Chapel of St. James the Apostle — the SSPX will be yet another step closer to being fully accepted by Modernist Rome. At this point, the writing is, even quite literally, on the wall.

See Also:

An Infernal Dungeon: Berkeley’s “Catholic” Campus Chapel (https://novusordowatch.org/wire/an-infernal-dungeon.htm)
Novus Ordo Monster Altars! (https://novusordowatch.org/wire/novus-ordo-monster-altars.htm)
Churches from Hell (http://www.traditioninaction.org/RevolutionPhotos/A364rcChurchHell.html)
Stage Diving, Pornography & more: “Cardinal” Schonborn’s “Youth Masses” (https://novusordowatch.org/wire/schonborns-youth-mass-2008.htm)
Blasphemy in Concrete: “Holy Family” Church in Italy (https://novusordowatch.org/wire/holy-family-church-salerno.htm)
Compare and Contrast: The “Great Renewal” (https://novusordowatch.org/wire/novus-ordo-logic-mass.htm)
Catholic vs. Novus Ordo Churches: Easy to see the difference (https://novusordowatch.org/wire/time-to-wake-up.htm)
Have the Gates of Hell prevailed against the Church? (https://novusordowatch.org/wire/gates-of-hell-prevailed.htm)
OK, so… NOW WHAT?! (https://novusordowatch.org/now-what.htm) - How to be a real Catholic today


This "Church" (and I use that term loosely) is an abject monstrosity that all Catholics with well-formed minds should instinctively, and rightly, recoil from in horror!

If one was not sure that the SSPX is truly dead, look no further than this for the evidence. This Church would fit right in with Roger Mahony's monstrosity in Los Angeles.
Title: Hideous New SSPX Church in Madrid!
Post by: Sienna629 on July 26, 2016, 04:30:43 PM
Quote from: RomanCatholic1953
Much of the art today is plain ugly.  Looks like a slap stick job.

I remember attending an art festival many years ago where the
public can vote.
The picture that won first prize of $1000.00 turned out that a bucket
of mixed paint was thrown on a canvas by a child.
Absolutely no taste and no appreciation for true talented art.


That is because the Devil is in charge.
Title: Hideous New SSPX Church in Madrid!
Post by: snowball on July 26, 2016, 04:44:43 PM
i don't understand the gold trumpet-thing unfurling
into a pearl ?
Title: Hideous New SSPX Church in Madrid!
Post by: Sienna629 on July 26, 2016, 04:50:46 PM
Quote from: Wessex
A confusing building indicative of the organisation and the religion it promotes. The best interpretation we can make is that the brand has now been packaged and is ready for marketing as a 'fast food' solution for busy apartment dwellers wanting a little updated nostalgia. What is missing is a Starbucks refreshment concession.

The Society has never been big on architectural taste; too much time has been spent in make-shift buildings and hotels, even tents, that is has forgotten what old churches looked like. I know some of the older generation were shocked at what had become of the 'house of God' in the hands of the Society and had decided to give it a miss. Crude minimalism was not for them; the psychological adjustment was just too great to make.

If form follows function in this case, then I expect the expanse of tradition is being trimmed down to suit the modern age and no doubt the current management will be congratulating themselves in stealing a march on their rivals on how to deal with the redundancy of the old. My reaction is to rush back to those cathedrals and churches that have not been mutilated and ignore the rubbish that is going on inside!    


I totally disagree with you. You imply that the Society has no appreciation for beautiful, Cathedral-style Churches. The truth is, they cannot afford to build such Churches, based on what the "ordinary man in the pew" puts in the collection basket. Not only can we not afford to construct them, but we cannot afford to maintain them either, much as would love to have them.

The new seminary in Virginia is not being built with funds submitted by the "ordinary man in the pew"; that is money funneled in from "powerful sources in Europe" lined up by Max Krah.
Title: Hideous New SSPX Church in Madrid!
Post by: Mercyandjustice on July 26, 2016, 10:37:08 PM
It doesn't look to .bad in the inside. Just paint a traditional image of the Virgin over that strange depiction of her (what's with that silver ball?). Also, are those crosses on the walls supposed to be the stations of the cross? Change that too and there, it'd have a nice interior. And on the outside, take away that metal thing on top.of the building.