I know a woman who had been married for over 10 years (got married at the chapel of an independent Traditional priests who works with the SSPX).  At one point she got sick of her husband, decided that her marriage was suddenly invalid, and obtained a declaration of nullity from the NO diocese.

I wish this were the only case I had heard of this within Tradition. I've even heard about large families (7+ children) going through divorces like this.

I can't believe TRADITIONAL CATHOLICS can't hold the line on basic morality! I mean, just for starters, when you have all these divorces/no-fault annulments/etc. there is one consequence that can't be denied: just like those in the world (and all your worldly co-workers!) you can talk about your "ex", and have sɛҳuąƖ experience with more than one living person.

I can't imagine having sɛҳuąƖ experience with more than one person still living. That's the reality of just about every worldling, but come on! we're supposed to be Catholics, and Traditional Catholics at that.

I mean, you'd be tempted to compare them, and for women, there are issues with bonding. The more partners a woman has (referred to in some circles as her N-count), her ability to bond emotionally with her husband (or pseudo-husband) decreases. God made man and woman a certain way. The sɛҳuąƖ union was meant to create a strong bond to cement a family, since the parents are the foundation. But when a woman becomes accustomed to casual sex, or ripping herself away from different partners every couple years, she slowly but surely loses the ability to create the bond in the first place. She becomes damaged goods.

And yes, the man is affected too (sins of thought when thinking about past "conquests", etc.) but it's different for him. Men and women are different. As Traditional Catholics we all know that.

And I'm sure there's always the temptation to get back together with that ex-spouse. Especially after years, and all the emotions have cooled. Out of nostalgia if nothing else!

And that's just from one angle. What about the fact that the person you re-marry is almost ALWAYS "experienced" as well? So you have to wonder what she REALLY thinks of you compared to her ex-husband and past boyfriends...

And that's just the couple. What about the children involved in these Catholic divorces? They will have all the problems worldly children of divorce have to deal with. I'll give you a hint: children take it hard. And they should! If John divorces Mary, rejecting her, why wouldn't his children (who are 50% Mary) consider that a rejection of themselves as well? After all, the children are often very much like their parents, whether in looks, mannerisms, personality, temperament, talents, etc. And the children will have bonding issues with their new "parent" which is to be expected: "you're not my dad!" and all that.

Furthermore, stepdad-stepdaughter incest really shouldn't be referred to as such. It's debauched, it's evil, it's pedophilia -- but if the individuals are not related, it's not incest. Period. Nature has a way of discouraging incest, since the common genes and common upbringing (raising children from babies) helps incest to not even be a temptation (assuming a normal man, who hasn't perverted himself or indulged in sɛҳuąƖ vice for countless years). But when a man remarries a woman with a 16 year old daughter? Come on! She's a stranger, sɛҳuąƖly mature, in the flower of youth. And this causes problems *all the time*.

You can have all that! That's one of the many reasons I signed up to serve God instead of satan the deceiver and the World he has much control over.


I guess it goes back to "the fewness of the saved", and Our Lady's warning that "most souls go to Hell because of sins of the flesh".

It would seem that if you can develop virtue to keep the 6th/9th commandments, you're about 90% of the way to heaven. That's how it would seem. All the other sins pale in comparison, when it comes to calculating how alluring they are, what kind of grip they get on you, etc.

I'm convinced that 1st World Nations are doomed when it comes to holding the moral line that Matthew speaks about and Trad families are seriously affected by this. I came back to the U.S. last year after many years in Latin America. The small details opened my eyes to the larger problems. This prevalent culture is doomed and Trads in America have got to step back from worldliness (TVs, pop culture, public education and anything that represents American culture). I would go so far as to say that Traditional Catholics in America should correspond very little if at all with non-Catholics and keep even those at a distance (of course within reason and obligation). If they are serious in their Faith, they will see the necessity. It's gotten so serious that those who really want to practice their Faith should just move and start a Trad city somewhere.

It amazes me how few people can last 20 minutes without sparking a cigarette in America without getting impatient and angry. How the booms of modern degenerate rap music promoting violence and all sorts of licentiousness are heard in every corner at all hours. Everyone is only consumed with feeling good and fleeing from the smallest of sacrifices. Immediate gratification has replaced religion entirely. Here in the South, the law of God is written in the hearts of men so that no one will deny believing in God, though they live every moment of their lives as if He never existed. 

In contrast, the non-religious of Latin America don't divorce while the so-called Traditionalist families are prone to this sort of evil in America.

"One who seeks only pleasure, ease, honor, or profit is a worldling, that is, he lives only for this life. Gradually he becomes a slave of his earthly desires, so that he cannot even think of God. He will believe in Heaven too late-when he finds its gates forever closed to him." 

People are so far gone nowadays that they are even against the natural law.

People are so far gone nowadays that they are even against the natural law.

What does soy boy, cuck, sjw mean (I'm guessing BLM = Black Lives Matter)?

Hey SSPX is my Marriage Valid? Can I get an Annulment?

Hey SSPX, are you saying that my marriage in an SSPX chapel 15+ years ago is not valid? Are you saying that I have been living in adultery all this time?

I don't know what the SSPX says, but the Code of Canon Law says that it not valid.
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/_INDEX.HTM

I can't imagine having sɛҳuąƖ experience with more than one person still living.

Lots of wisdom in your last post, Matthew.  I would take this line a step further.  I can't imagine having sɛҳuąƖ experience with more than one person PERIOD.  If, God forbid, something happened to my wife, I could never contemplate marrying anyone else ... for all the same reasons that you mentioned.