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« Reply #60 on: May 21, 2013, 01:30:05 PM »
God and especially the Blessed Mother has guided us to our true Catholic faith.  
i have always been Catholic..

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« Reply #61 on: May 22, 2013, 04:24:29 AM »
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PEOPLE DO NOT RECEIVE ANY GRACE FROM THE NOVUS ORDO!


 But how do you know that for sure?  :cry:



We have attempted in the book, The Great Sacrilege,' to prove that the Novus Urdo Missae is unacceptable on many counts. The thesis of that book is that the New Mass is a sacrilege, because it is a deliberate counterfeit of the established Mass of the Latin Rite.

Our emphasis was not on the question of whether the New Mass is valid, but that, valid or not, it is only a facsimile of the Holy Sacrifice. It is an evil thing, and a sacrilege is committed every time this rite is performed. We postulated there, and we continue to maintain, that everything about the New Mass is execrable.

(1) There was a sacrilege on the part of those who formulated it, (2) a sacrilege on the part of the Pope (Paul VI) who imposed it upon the Church, (3) which sin is being perpetuated by his present successor who has yet to suppress it; (4) there is a sacrilege on the part of every priest whenever he offers it; (5) and there is a sacrilege on the part of every person every time he attends it for any reason whatsoever.

The reason we have not insisted that the New Mass is invalid is, as we said in the book, we Catholics, even should we find ample grounds for suspecting that no consecration is effected, cannot have complete certitude as to whether the bread and wine are changed into the Body and Blood of Christ. That there is real doubt should be reason enough for everyone to stay away, but this is a secondary issue. There need be no doubt whatsoever as to the sacrilegious character of the New Mass, and therefore, of the obligation to recognize it for what it is; and once having reached that conclusion, everyone must discontinue all attendance under pain of mortal sin.

We beg the reader to refer to that book if he has not done so. - Fr. Wathen, Who Shall Ascend? 1991



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« Reply #62 on: May 22, 2013, 08:21:50 AM »
Maryam is not an uncommon Muslim name.

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« Reply #63 on: May 22, 2013, 08:31:53 AM »
Muslims believe in the miraculous virgin birth of Jesus, they do not believe he is God but more like a prophet.

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« Reply #64 on: May 22, 2013, 11:30:20 AM »
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Quote from: PenitentWoman
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PEOPLE DO NOT RECEIVE ANY GRACE FROM THE NOVUS ORDO!


 But how do you know that for sure?  :cry:



We have attempted in the book, The Great Sacrilege,' to prove that the Novus Urdo Missae is unacceptable on many counts. The thesis of that book is that the New Mass is a sacrilege, because it is a deliberate counterfeit of the established Mass of the Latin Rite.

Our emphasis was not on the question of whether the New Mass is valid, but that, valid or not, it is only a facsimile of the Holy Sacrifice. It is an evil thing, and a sacrilege is committed every time this rite is performed. We postulated there, and we continue to maintain, that everything about the New Mass is execrable.

(1) There was a sacrilege on the part of those who formulated it, (2) a sacrilege on the part of the Pope (Paul VI) who imposed it upon the Church, (3) which sin is being perpetuated by his present successor who has yet to suppress it; (4) there is a sacrilege on the part of every priest whenever he offers it; (5) and there is a sacrilege on the part of every person every time he attends it for any reason whatsoever.

The reason we have not insisted that the New Mass is invalid is, as we said in the book, we Catholics, even should we find ample grounds for suspecting that no consecration is effected, cannot have complete certitude as to whether the bread and wine are changed into the Body and Blood of Christ. That there is real doubt should be reason enough for everyone to stay away, but this is a secondary issue. There need be no doubt whatsoever as to the sacrilegious character of the New Mass, and therefore, of the obligation to recognize it for what it is; and once having reached that conclusion, everyone must discontinue all attendance under pain of mortal sin.

We beg the reader to refer to that book if he has not done so. - Fr. Wathen, Who Shall Ascend? 1991



Quite well said, and quite true.