[For Greater Glory]

Seraphim,
     I do not consider myself a "Feenyite"-hate the labels-Lefebvrites, etc. Those people play God by saying the man died so he lost his soul.
     It's midnight and I just pulled out my books on the canons and decrees  and the catechism of the Council of Trent. Read over pages 36-46 on canons and decrees. I don't have time tonight to read through both books. This is also my understanding from a theologian and priests.
     I'm a little confused by the way the question is phrased. If as the Council says we are justified by the waters of Baptism, it only stands to reason that we as adults must be free from mortal sin in order to be saved. We have to work out our salvation as St. Paul says. Yes, if you die in a state of justification or sanctifying grace - no mortal sin- yes you could obtain salvation. My four month old baby died - received Baptism and Confirmation. She went straight to heaven. But we, as adults, must die with no mortal sin or insufficiently repented mortal sin. Please write again, as we are all searching for the truth. God bless

[SeanJohnson]

Seraphim,
     I do not consider myself a "Feenyite"-hate the labels-####s, etc. Those people play God by saying the man died so he lost his soul.
     It's midnight and I just pulled out my books on the canons and decrees  and the catechism of the Council of Trent. Read over pages 36-46 on canons and decrees. I don't have time tonight to read through both books. This is also my understanding from a theologian and priests.
     I'm a little confused by the way the question is phrased. If as the Council says we are justified by the waters of Baptism, it only stands to reason that we as adults must be free from mortal sin in order to be saved. We have to work out our salvation as St. Paul says. Yes, if you die in a state of justification or sanctifying grace - no mortal sin- yes you could obtain salvation. My four month old baby died - received Baptism and Confirmation. She went straight to heaven. But we, as adults, must die with no mortal sin or insufficiently repented mortal sin. Please write again, as we are all searching for the truth. God bless

I don't disagree with any of this.

[inprincipio]

Here we go again!  The whole thread has been changed to an argument about no salvation outside the Church and the same tired old names being thrown around.

The OP was talking about the NO service they call "mass".

[Sigismund]

Muslims with an image of Our Lady (who they believe is NOT Our Lady, but Fatima, the daughter of Mohammed)

The Mohammedans do reverence Our Lady highly, as a holy and devout woman, though not as the Mother of God.  The Portugese town was so named by a Christian prince who fell in love with a Mohammedan girl named Fatima. Our Lady's choice of this town, so that she would be known to future generations as Our Lady of Fatima, perhaps indicates she has a plan to lead these poor erring souls one day to true faith in her Son.

This post contains historical facts and one simple and utterly unobjectionable opinion.  Did the people who downthumbed it think for even a second before attacking with their mouse?

I downthumbed it because he/she came off as making excuses for Muslims.

I don't think Nishant was doing that, but I can see your point.  And thank you for explaining your down thumb.  I wish more people would do that.

[1st Mansion Tenant]

I wish to apologize for my earlier post in which I accused PFT of being uncharitable. I misunderstood the OP, and upon rereading it I realized my comment was wrong, and thus uncharitable itself. mea culpa.