Author Topic: Heraldry of BXVI...touted by new SSPX priest (Read 13407 times)

Ekim · « **on:** January 30, 2013, 07:59:54 PM »

Has anyone noticed that the priest recently ordained in France by +Fellay has the heraldry of Bennedict XVI on his chasuable? The coat of arms of the man who the Archbishop said was not a Catholic. And +Fellay wants us to believe that he no longer wishes to be part of the modernist Vatican. Actions speak louder than words. What does this say to the SSPX Seminarians??? Why not the coat of arms of the Archbishop? How about St. Pius X? But that of one of the "best " modernist in Church history? What a scandal!!!!

Quo Vadis Petre · « **Reply #1 on:** January 30, 2013, 08:24:43 PM »

Here is an article from The Recusant on this very issue (link here):

Benedict XVI - Traditionalist Hero of the SSPX...?
Posted by The Editor on January 28, 2013 at 2:45 PM

Latest piece of evidence regarding the worrying way in which certain sections of the SSPX seem to regard Benedict XVI as some sort of Restorer of Tradition:

This is a photo taken at the ordination of Abbé Lundi by Bishop Fellay, at St. Nicolas du Chardonnet, Paris, on 27/01/13 (yesterday).

Have a good look at the device on Abbé Lundi's chasuble.

Can you tell which coat of arms it is?

Here's an enlarged version of it. Pay close attention to the heraldry in the centre.

That's right, it's the Coat of Arms of Pope Benedict XVI.

Which leaves us with an interesting question:

Why would a newly ordained SSPX priest wear a chasuble decorated with Benedict XVI's coat of arms for his ordination?

Any suggestions gratefully recieved. I am sure it is a mere coincidence, of course...!

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"...'But we are not alone' in working to 'defend the faith,' the bishop said. 'It's the pope himself who does it; that's his job. And if we are called to help the Holy Father in that, so be it.' "

- Bishop Fellay (CNS, 11/05/12)

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"If Rome now calls us back from the exile ... then that is an act of justice and without doubt also an act of authentic pastoral care of Pope Benedict XVI. And for that we are grateful."

- Fr. Schmidberger (German District Newsletter, May 2012)

magdalena · « **Reply #2 on:** January 30, 2013, 08:51:41 PM »

Should we be surprised? I'm not. But I am sickened by the possibility.

CathMomof7 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 30, 2013, 09:02:15 PM »

:pop:

Done. Deal.

Incredulous · « **Reply #4 on:** January 30, 2013, 09:15:53 PM »

Jeepers creepers!

How many more "smoke signals" does Bp. Fellay have to give
his newChurch handlers, to tell them he'll do anything for a deal?

I wonder if the Econe seminarians put on the play: "The Sound of Music",
Menzingen would get a phone call ?

Sigismund · « **Reply #5 on:** January 30, 2013, 09:21:32 PM »

Why would a priest wear a chasuble with anyone's coat of arms, even his own? The don't belong on Mass vestments. The pope himself doesn't do that, as far as I know.

Francisco · « **Reply #6 on:** January 30, 2013, 09:33:46 PM »

Quote from: Sigismund

Why would a priest wear a chasuble with anyone's coat of arms, even his own? The don't belong on Mass vestments. The pope himself doesn't do that, as far as I know.

Yes, this is maximum grovelling! Does Fellay think that all the French faithful will go for this gimmick?

trento · « **Reply #7 on:** January 30, 2013, 09:49:53 PM »

Quote from: Sigismund

Why would a priest wear a chasuble with anyone's coat of arms, even his own? The don't belong on Mass vestments. The pope himself doesn't do that, as far as I know.

Not true. It is a common Roman or Italian practice to have the coat of arms of the reigning Pontiff on the chasuble. I've seen antique Roman vestments bearing the coat of arms of Pius IX, Pius X, or Pius XI:

As for the pope himself, here are some pics:

trento · « **Reply #8 on:** January 30, 2013, 09:57:08 PM »

Pablo · « **Reply #9 on:** January 30, 2013, 10:18:11 PM »

I don't see anything wrong with using the coat of arms.

Wait until they open their mouths and remove all doubt.

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curioustrad · « **Reply #10 on:** January 30, 2013, 11:01:28 PM »

Quote from: Pablo

I don't see anything wrong with using the coat of arms.

Wait until they open their mouths and remove all doubt.

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That's a beautiful photograph of the Holy Father, Pablo, Many Thanks for sharing it with us.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #11 on:** January 30, 2013, 11:24:20 PM »

Not a very truthful picture of Benedict. This displays the truth:

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #12 on:** January 30, 2013, 11:36:22 PM »

Why does the coat of arms of Benedict XVI have a tiara on top, when he
has never worn a tiara on top of his own head - and neither had his
predecessor I or II or for the most part III? The tiara of Paul VI was
donated to some organization and was last seen being worn by a woman
in a party as part of a fun time costume: you know, like they're using
the spoils of Modernist war against the Church, like consecrated chalices
for goblets at dinner parties and blessed pattens for dessert dishes, etc.?
JPI was not crowned Pope, nor was JPII, nor was BXVI, nor have their
tiaras ever been seen in public, even NOT being worn. They probably do
not exist. But here is the image of one on the coat of arms. Reality is in
the mind, apparently.

And another thing: why the two keys in the heraldry? The popes ever
since John XXIII have abandoned the power of the keys ever since he
gave his regrettable speech on October 11th, 1962, to open the most
regrettable Vatican II. No more condemnation of error, he said --
therefore, no more power of the keys. Yet they continue to put the
image of keys on the papal coats of arms. Reality is in the mind, or, in
the heraldry, anyway.

Put A and B together and you come up with C: it's all window dressing.
It's all smoke and mirrors. It's all subjectivism. It's all fantasy. Things
are not what they would appear to be, but appearances are all that
matters, or so they would lead you to believe..................

This new ordination is bearing a coat of arms that has no words of men
attached, no sounding brass nor tinkling cymbal (cf. I Cor. xiii. 1). It's like
the trappings of the Church are being used for smells and bells but
without substance. Ooops. There's that word again! We're not supposed
to say "substance" anymore, at least, not while wearing the coat of arms
of the "greatest" Modernist yet to walk the earth.

Francisco · « **Reply #13 on:** January 31, 2013, 03:37:43 AM »

Quote from: curioustrad

Quote from: Pablo
I don't see anything wrong with using the coat of arms.Wait until they open their mouths and remove all doubt.*

That's a beautiful photograph of the Holy Father, Pablo, Many Thanks for sharing it with us.

Sure is. But it's a shame old Benny wasn't wearing either one of his favorite badges:

"I'm a bad dad but still the true Pope!" or " Bernie's my true brownie!"

Telesphorus · « **Reply #14 on:** January 31, 2013, 04:45:45 AM »

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Why does the coat of arms of Benedict XVI have a tiara on top

It follows from the insane logic of those who claim you must pretend things are other than what they are - you must pretend a modernist is a Catholic, or the Church has failed.

Only a mitre, and not a tiara on Benedict VI's arms? Those who feel that it ought to be a tiara won't let reality that it isn't get in the way.