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Offline Mr G

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Has the SSPX become tired? YES
« on: August 14, 2024, 07:47:29 AM »
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    Re: Has the SSPX become tired? YES
    « Reply #1 on: August 14, 2024, 03:04:48 PM »
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    • The SSPX leadership indeed lost graces when they compromised with the conciliar Church.
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    Re: Has the SSPX become tired? YES
    « Reply #2 on: August 14, 2024, 03:27:31 PM »
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    • Quote from: Hewkonian on August 14, 2024, 03:04:48 PM
    when they compromised with the conciliar Church
    When was that?
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    Re: Has the SSPX become tired? YES
    « Reply #3 on: August 14, 2024, 03:33:49 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mr G on August 14, 2024, 07:47:29 AM
    Has the SSPX Become Tired and Non-Belligerent?
    It seems so. You see nothing like +Schneider's Flee From Heresy coming out of the Neo-SSPX.
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    Re: Has the SSPX become tired? YES
    « Reply #4 on: August 14, 2024, 10:30:20 PM »
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    • In the latest 2024 'Convictions' magazine of FSSPX Canada, a whole page highlights a quote from Msgr R. Hugh Benson. " Systems other than the Catholic faith seem to be built up to a large extent on a lack of the sense of humour. I wonder whether the sense of humour will ever be exalted in the Church to the dignity of a virtue? ...t saves people from so much foolishness and heresy. "
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    Also, you could see +Fellay Sept 20 in Quebec, for the St. Joseph Pilgrimage. ;)
    I think the Ssp x started to veer its course of action when they accepted the 'Ordinary' / 'Extraordinary' Rites. The alteration of the altar's orientation is evidence of satan's  diametrical deep deeds.







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    Re: Has the SSPX become tired? YES
    « Reply #5 on: August 15, 2024, 01:40:54 PM »
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    • Quote from: Geremia on August 14, 2024, 03:27:31 PM
    When was that?
    It began after the death of Archbishop Lefebvre, became official with the 2012 Doctrinal Declaration, and has continued since. See the attached PDF for 100+ Catalog of Compromise, Change, and Contradiction in the New-SSPX.
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    Re: Has the SSPX become tired? YES
    « Reply #6 on: August 18, 2024, 01:21:07 AM »
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    • Quote from: Mr G on August 14, 2024, 07:47:29 AM
    Has the SSPX Become Tired and Non-Belligerent? – Catholics Aren't Zombies! (zero-zombies.blog)
    I think it was in 2017 when Fr Chazal wrote in an issue of his Miles Christi, that when a young man in Manila, who wanted to test his vocation with the SSPX, was invited by an American SSPX priest there for lunch. Right through the meal the American avoided answering queries regarding the crisis in the Church. Just would not respond.
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    Re: Has the SSPX become tired? YES
    « Reply #7 on: August 18, 2024, 04:05:28 PM »
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    • Quote from: Hewkonian on August 15, 2024, 01:40:54 PM
    It began after the death of Archbishop Lefebvre, became official with the 2012 Doctrinal Declaration, and has continued since. See the attached PDF for 100+ Catalog of Compromise, Change, and Contradiction in the New-SSPX.
    The question i have is do you think if my only option is sspx or stay home, would you recommend stay home?
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    Re: Has the SSPX become tired? YES
    « Reply #8 on: August 18, 2024, 05:47:20 PM »
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    • Quote from: sedevacantist3 on August 18, 2024, 04:05:28 PM
    The question i have is do you think if my only option is sspx or stay home, would you recommend stay home?
    I would not attend anywhere that is compromised. The Neo-SSPX is compromised, and I would not attend their services. Instead, I would do as the great people did during the time of the Vendée, as St. John Vianney and his family did.

    The Vianney family preferred to travel many miles to attend Mass offered by a non-juror priest, rather than compromise their faith by attending a schismatic Mass. If that wasn't possible, they would stay at home and glorify the Lord's Day in other ways, remaining steadfast in their devotion.

    The 2012 Doctrinal Declaration was a far graver and worse offense than the oath the priests signed back then.
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    Re: Has the SSPX become tired? YES
    « Reply #9 on: August 18, 2024, 06:43:39 PM »
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    • Tough one, my sede priest told me to continue for now attending sspx, although that was a year ago.  A schismatic priest I would think is worse than to attend a sspx mass no?
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    Re: Has the SSPX become tired? YES
    « Reply #10 on: August 18, 2024, 09:05:27 PM »
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    • Quote from: sedevacantist3 on August 18, 2024, 06:43:39 PM
    Tough one, my sede priest told me to continue for now attending sspx, although that was a year ago.  A schismatic priest I would think is worse than to attend a sspx mass no?
    If your sede priest told you to continue attending the sspx for now then do it. 

    We are blessed to have Father Ringrose at Saint Athanasius only a little over an hour away from us but occasionally if some of us are sick (we have 3 little boys) or we have other reasons we will attend our local SSPX 10 minutes away.

    Schismatic is definitely different from the SSPX...  I wouldn't recommend to anyone to go to the Easter Orthodox even if there was no where else to go.
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    Re: Has the SSPX become tired? YES
    « Reply #11 on: August 18, 2024, 10:15:19 PM »
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    • Quote from: sedevacantist3 on August 18, 2024, 04:05:28 PM
    The question i have is do you think if my only option is sspx or stay home, would you recommend stay home?
    As long as your SSPX option involves validly ordained priests (always research who they are sending), it is infinitely better than staying home and depriving yourself of the sacraments, especially the physical presence of our Lord. I say this as someone who holds the sedevacantist position. The quality of your local SSPX chapel may vary, but in my experience it has been a great source of graces and it beats staying home and watching a livestream of a Mass.
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    Re: Has the SSPX become tired? YES
    « Reply #12 on: August 19, 2024, 04:27:17 AM »
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    • I really like that word that Vigano used: non-belligerant.  

    These institutions and groups have an unspoken contract of non-belligerence, it can be said.

    I wish I had Mel Gibson money to make a private chapel.
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    Re: Has the SSPX become tired? YES
    « Reply #13 on: August 19, 2024, 10:00:23 AM »
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    • Quote from: Sneedevacantist on August 18, 2024, 10:15:19 PM
    As long as your SSPX option involves validly ordained priests (always research who they are sending), it is infinitely better than staying home and depriving yourself of the sacraments, especially the physical presence of our Lord. I say this as someone who holds the sedevacantist position. The quality of your local SSPX chapel may vary, but in my experience it has been a great source of graces and it beats staying home and watching a livestream of a Mass.
    Well said!  I forgot to mention the caviat of making sure the SSPX priest at one's location is valid.  🥰
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