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Capuchins of Morgon not part of Resistance
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2014, 02:43:34 PM »
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  • any resistance will do to jump on  :jumping2:


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    Capuchins of Morgon not part of Resistance
    « Reply #16 on: April 09, 2014, 02:55:42 PM »
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  • I can truthfully state as a professed member of the Third Order of Penance of St. Dominic under the Dominican Friars of the Couvent de la Haye aux Bonshommes in Avrille, France that that same friary has placed itself at the service of the Resistance according to their signatures on the "Address to the Faithful."

    Fr. Pierre-Marie, O.P. as the Father Prior has signed on behalf of the friary.

    BofA is right:

    The house that is being opened in Steffeshausen is something that Bishop Fellay has done totally outside (i.e. without consultation or permission) the Dominican friary at Avrille. Those five priests and brothers left the Dominican community on their own, at different times over the years, without regard to Canon Law or the Dominican constitutions. They have been away from their proper religious home without permission for some years. There are long-standing procedures in place for handling this type of situation. Bishop Fellay has willfully disregarded these procedures.

    The new, so-called "Dominican" house is under the authority of Bishop de Galarretta as appointed by Bishop Fellay--a situation that is also unheard of under Canon Law regarding the governance of religious houses and is also against the Dominican constitutions.

    Bishop Fellay is assuming to himself powers that even the Pope does not have.

    He disregards Canon Law and Tradition, the constitutions of religious orders and even the civil and criminal laws of various nations. He is a tyrant in every sense of the word. These Dominicans have suffered much under his hands.

    The upshot is that the Dominican Fathers of Avrille, France have very much put themselves at the service of the Resistance.



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    Capuchins of Morgon not part of Resistance
    « Reply #17 on: April 09, 2014, 02:59:49 PM »
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  • Correction:

    BfromA is correct:

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    Capuchins of Morgon not part of Resistance
    « Reply #18 on: April 09, 2014, 05:55:56 PM »
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    I can truthfully state as a professed member of the Third Order of Penance of St. Dominic under the Dominican Friars of the Couvent de la Haye aux Bonshommes in Avrille, France that that same friary has placed itself at the service of the Resistance according to their signatures on the "Address to the Faithful."

    Fr. Pierre-Marie, O.P. as the Father Prior has signed on behalf of the friary.

    BofA is right:

    The house that is being opened in Steffeshausen is something that Bishop Fellay has done totally outside (i.e. without consultation or permission) the Dominican friary at Avrille. Those five priests and brothers left the Dominican community on their own, at different times over the years, without regard to Canon Law or the Dominican constitutions. They have been away from their proper religious home without permission for some years. There are long-standing procedures in place for handling this type of situation. Bishop Fellay has willfully disregarded these procedures.

    The new, so-called "Dominican" house is under the authority of Bishop de Galarretta as appointed by Bishop Fellay--a situation that is also unheard of under Canon Law regarding the governance of religious houses and is also against the Dominican constitutions.

    Bishop Fellay is assuming to himself powers that even the Pope does not have.

    He disregards Canon Law and Tradition, the constitutions of religious orders and even the civil and criminal laws of various nations. He is a tyrant in every sense of the word. These Dominicans have suffered much under his hands.

    The upshot is that the Dominican Fathers of Avrille, France have very much put themselves at the service of the Resistance.




    Thanks for that clarification (on the Dominicans).  No problem on the name.

    Here is the other article I mentioned:

    http://nonpossumus-vcr.blogspot.mx/2014/01/mons-fellay-abusos-contra-los-dominicos.html

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    Friday, January 31, 2014
    MONS . FELLAY : ABUSES OF DOMINICAN AVRILLE - .

    Article based on this information the forum A évêque s'est leve : here and here :

    A new Dominican convent was founded by the Brotherhood in Belgium on 13 November. The Dominicans that comprise five.

    These five monks left Avrillé on different dates, some of them secretly , being received in various priories and houses of the fraternity [i.e. SSPX], though, according to canon law , they should be considered fugitives and apostates ( canons 644 § 1 and 2, and 2385 ) . Your situation is obviously illegitimate , not only by the way they were , but because to stay out of the obedience due to superiors.

    Since then they have been ministering wearing the Dominican habit (which is against the constitution of this religious order and the canon 639 ) with permission from Bishop de Galarreta , which , incidentally, is not his superior.

    Bishop Fellay asked Avrillé Dominicans accept the creation of a subsidiary monastery with monks who had separated from the community. But Father Pierre Marie ( prior of Avrillé ) was not favorable to this foundation . Due to the insistence of Bishop Fellay , Father Pierre Marie relented, but on condition that the new convent was under the jurisdiction of Avrillé , and Avrillé appoint the head of the new convent. Bishop Fellay gave his word , he made a formal commitment that the convent would not be created if these conditions are not met, also pledged that if the monks did not accept , Bishop Fellay would ask them to stop the habit because they were not received as Dominicans priories in the fraternity , as had been happening for a long time .

    The Dominicans of the convent offered Avrillé was created in Belgium , on a property that had been offered to them , but suddenly changed his mind Monsignor Fellay . Lacking to his word, gave the order to foundation of the convent , which happened in November last year, being established under the direct jurisdiction of Bishop de Galarreta , which appointed the new top . But ultimately , the real superior is Bishop Fellay . The convent was founded in the same property as Avrillé had initially offered .

     The Dominicans with amazement learned of the broken engagement through rumors , they tried to find out why . The obvious reason , of course, is that Bishop Fellay and does not " had confidence " because of its " doctrinal intransigence " ( about the agreement with Rome ) . Recall that in 2012 , Bishop Fellay denied ordination to the Dominicans and Capuchins seminarians.

    Bishop Fellay went over the constitutions of the Dominican order also did not respect what the fraternity was established in relation to communities of tradition, and even his decision was made without consulting the five founding fathers of the new convent in Belgium.

    Therefore, Bishop Fellay is solely responsible .

    Archbishop Lefebvre 's position relative to friendly communities , was always that of a father giving advice , herding spirits, but never want to replace the top of the order or imposed in the internal affairs of religious. Unfortunately , long , Monsignor Fellay and Bishop de Galarreta no longer fulfill this role , putting oil on the fire to want to intervene directly in the affairs of the Dominicans . This is another sad episode shows that Bishop Fellay is not in place as superior general : confused with the head of a single party.

    Schmidberger Father recalls in his letter of 27 May 1991 addressed to the monasteries and convents of Tradition, which authority has the fraternity friends on communities :

       
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    The current situation of Roma , which has lasted twenty years and ordinary places turn prevents us , as you know, the diocesan or Roman ecclesiastical authority for all matters relating to the vows of religion , common life, etc.Es why some of you frequently resorted , in recent years , Monsignor Lefebvre as an authority of substitution. In fact , he was more a father , counselor and friend to authority in the sense jurídico.Después his death , the General Council of the SSPX Bishop Fellay asked to fulfill this role , as the intention in life by our Founder . it is in this spirit of service that bishop Fellay exercise this office, not as a member of the SSPX , but as a Catholic bishop. Each community is absolutely free to go or not to him. Neither he nor the fraternity have the slightest intention of putting your hands in the other communities , the way it is . Also to be seen in action , the exercise of extraordinary jurisdiction and not ordinary , until the day in the Church things back to order. I express in this letter our burning desire to keep with you the deep bonds of friendship that have joined us for many years .



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    Capuchins of Morgon not part of Resistance
    « Reply #19 on: April 09, 2014, 06:14:57 PM »
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    I can truthfully state as a professed member of the Third Order of Penance of St. Dominic under the Dominican Friars of the Couvent de la Haye aux Bonshommes in Avrille, France that that same friary has placed itself at the service of the Resistance according to their signatures on the "Address to the Faithful."

    Fr. Pierre-Marie, O.P. as the Father Prior has signed on behalf of the friary.

    BofA is right:

    The house that is being opened in Steffeshausen is something that Bishop Fellay has done totally outside (i.e. without consultation or permission) the Dominican friary at Avrille. Those five priests and brothers left the Dominican community on their own, at different times over the years, without regard to Canon Law or the Dominican constitutions. They have been away from their proper religious home without permission for some years. There are long-standing procedures in place for handling this type of situation. Bishop Fellay has willfully disregarded these procedures.

    The new, so-called "Dominican" house is under the authority of Bishop de Galarretta as appointed by Bishop Fellay--a situation that is also unheard of under Canon Law regarding the governance of religious houses and is also against the Dominican constitutions.

    Bishop Fellay is assuming to himself powers that even the Pope does not have.

    He disregards Canon Law and Tradition, the constitutions of religious orders and even the civil and criminal laws of various nations. He is a tyrant in every sense of the word. These Dominicans have suffered much under his hands.

    The upshot is that the Dominican Fathers of Avrille, France have very much put themselves at the service of the Resistance.



    Deo Gratias!