Thank you for the post Ferdinand, that is exactly how things are going to work.  We are going to have to do our part if we want the Mass and the Truths of our Catholic Faith to continue in our area.  If the SSPX, by some miracle, chooses to return to its original stance then our efforts will still be rewarded.  For the time being, it's better not to keep our heads in the sand.


"In Portugal the dogma of the Faith will always be preserved etc." ...

If this situation is similar to how the SSPX began it's chapels, this is nothing new. It would be great to hear stories from "old timers" on how they started out, how they were persecuted by those who believed they were setting up a false church, and what pitfalls to avoid.

Good point, Telesphorus!

Posted on the other thread but it is now locked.  I thought I should let everyone know that yesterday I recieved a nice "Thnak You" for the donation I sent to True Restoration on behalf of H.E. Bishop Williamson.

What's "True Restoration?"

Isn't this about St. Marcel Initiative?  What does True Restoration have to do
with St. Marcel Initiative?  

There is OLMC, Boston KY, and there is Dinoscopus.org, and St. Marcel Initiative.  

Now you're adding a fourth one, True Restoration?  Sorry, I don't get it.

Things are confusing enough already we don't need more confusion.

Is this it?  http://truerestorationpress.com/  

Bishop Williamson has appealed for help from all SSPXers.

Resistance SSPXers are now withholding their weekly tithes from their local chapel.

Please try your best to support all of our courageous Bishops and Priests who are fighting for the Faith, instead of covering for the zionists and newRome!


Marcel Initiative








BTW: I went online last night and gave a little money, but I haven't told my wife.
As you can guess, my home is not a democracy.

Maybe after World War III your home will be safe for democracy?   :scratchchin:



(We had WWI and WWII, both of which were supposed to make the world
safe for democracy, but apparently that wasn't enough for the home of
Incredulous, so now we need WWIII, too, eh?  EH??  EH???)

Quote from: Ferdinand

Quote from: Neil Obstat

Quote from: Ekim

Posted on the other thread but it is now locked.  I thought I should let everyone know that yesterday I recieved a nice "Thnak You" for the donation I sent to True Restoration on behalf of H.E. Bishop Williamson.

What's "True Restoration?"

Isn't this about St. Marcel Initiative?  What does True Restoration have to do
with St. Marcel Initiative?  

There is OLMC, Boston KY, and there is Dinoscopus.org, and St. Marcel Initiative.  

Now you're adding a fourth one, True Restoration?  Sorry, I don't get it.

Things are confusing enough already we don't need more confusion.

Is this it?  http://truerestorationpress.com/  

True Restoration is a long-time resistance website:

http://truerestoration.blogspot.com

The related media site is:

http://www.truerestorationmedia.com

Okay, that helps.  But I'm still not out of the woods.......

I still don't understand why  http://truerestorationpress.com/   seems to
have no connection with http://www.truerestorationmedia.com  
even though both apparently offer products by Stephen Heiner.  

I don't see any links on one that mention the other.  Nor do I see any
means of making a "donation" on either site, and even if there were, what
would the purpose be of sending a donation to a layman's website?

And the post I quoted says a "donation" was sent.  That would be a
donation sent to a layman at the layman's website, "on behalf of H.E.
Richard Williamson?"  Or, was the "thank you" only from +W, and the
donation was for Heiner?  Why would +W be thanking Ekim for a
donation Ekim sent to Heiner?  

I must be missing something here.  It doesn't add up.




BTW I find it humorous that some trads are all bent out of shape that
+W is going to "go into business" after expulsion.  They are freaked out
that the money ought to be going to +Fellay instead, it seems.  

This is so bizarre.

Stephen Heiner set up an account for Americans to donate to Bishop Williamson, on behalf of Bishop Williamson almost immediately after His Excellency was expelled. It was only later that the St. Marcel site was set up.

Stephen Heiner visited his Excellency within the last month, I know because he stopped by in Toronto on his way to London. (And gave me a copy of the Bishop Williamson CD Collection on behalf of our mutual friend Nicholas Wansbutter as a belated wedding gift.)

Does that clear up a bit for you?

Dear LordPhan,  

Thank you very much.  I don't think I ever would have guessed that.  
But now it all makes sense.  You done well.  And congrats to you on the
banns of marriage!  

Now, on that CD collection: is it the mp3 set that Heiner has on his site
truerestorationpress.com by Bernard Janzen?  Have you listened to any
of it yet?  Can you tell us what you think?  Is it good stuff?? How many
minutes run time is it, or, how many CDs and average time and the like?
Kind of pricey but maybe it's worth it, eh?


And tell Nicholas Wansbutter greetings from the old mailing list okay?  

He did a great job on Dinoscopus for years, and I'd like him to know his
efforts are not forgotten.  

Happy Feast of the Immaculate Conception!

~Nl.Obs.

Thank you for the well-wishes.

The CD Collection is the one sold on truerestorationpress.com. Whether the price is worth it is up to the person doing the buying. As Publius Syrus said about 18 or 1900 years ago in Rome "Everything is worth what it's purchaser pays for it."

It is very good. It is in mp3 format so as to cram a lot of stuff per disc. But they are not your typical supercompressed MP3's either they run at a decent bitrate.

There are 7 discs in the set, the first two are Sermons by his Excellency rangings from 1994 to 2009. I have only so far listened to the first disc. It is about 8 and a half hours. The other discs 3 through 6 are Doctrinal Conferences and Disc 7 is a family conference.

Now as I stated I have not listened to more then the first disc so far, however, I already have one of the conferences, the one on Disc 6 which was a 2003 Conference about the errors of JPII. It disects everything from a couple of his encyclicals and tears them to shreds and tears the ideology of JPII down to its core. Now when I had listened to that set I recall it was 16 discs at over 16 hours. Just looking at the cover it would seem to be the same on this one (except that it's in mp3s and on one disc).

I personally look forward to listening to some more of these. I listened to the sermons by copying them to another disc and throwing it in my car's CD Player listening to a sermon on my way to work every now and then.

Hope that helps. God Bless.