You can't make this stuff up....

http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2012/05/freak-extremes-meet-hans-kung-becomes.html

Freak extremes meet: Hans Küng becomes a Sedevacantist, declares Benedict XVI schismatic over SSPX

Not, this is not May Fools' Day: heresiarch Hans Küng, who, "in his writings, has departed from the integral truth of Catholic faith, and therefore ... can no longer be considered a Catholic theologian nor function as such in a teaching role" (Declaration of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Dec. 15, 1979), has lost all notions of basic sacramental theology - and takes from this the most hilarious consequences. Or maybe he has just lost all shame, but that must have happened at the time of the Council.

Published today in the Südwest Presse:

HANS KÜNG - Papally provoked disobedience

Both in the official and in the alternative activities in the Mannheim Katholikentag*, the prevailing sentiment was one of resentment and frustration over the delayed reforms in the Church. In fierce contrast with that, Pope Benedict XVI prepares, apparently for Pentecost, the final reconciliation with the Catholic Church of the traditionalist Society of Saint Pius X, with its bishops and priests. This should happen even if the SSPX keeps rejecting key conciliar docuмents, having to be incorporated into the Church with  the use of skillful canonical tactics. Before the Pope does this, he must be duly warned, not least by the bishops, because of the following:

1. The pope would be including in the Church bishops and priests that are definitely invalidly ordained. According to the Apostolic Constitution of Pope Paul VI  "Pontificalis Romani recognitio", of July 18, 1968, the ordination of bishops and priests by Archbishop Lefebvre is not only illegal but also invalid. This view is shared among others by a relevant member of the "Doctrinal Commission", Karl Josef Becker, SJ, now a cardinal.**

2. With such a scandalous decision, Pope Benedict would, in his overall regretted isolation,  be even more separated from the People of God. The classical doctrine regarding schism should be a warning to him. According to it, a schism of the Church happens when there is separation from the Pope, but also when the latter separates himself from the body of the Church. "Even the Pope could become a schismatic, if he will not guard the unity and communion proper to the whole body of the Church." (Francisco Suárez, major Spanish theologian of the 16th/17th centuries).

3. A schismatic pope loses his position according to that same teaching of the constitution of the Church. At least, he cannot expect obedience. Pope Benedict would be therefore encouraging the already widespread popular movement of "disobedience" against a hierarchy that is disobedient to the Gospel. He would bear sole responsibility for the grave rift and the strife created inside the Church. Instead of reconciling with the ultra-conservative, anti-democratic, and anti-Semitic SSPX, the Pope should rather care about the majority of reform-minded Catholics and reconcile with the churches of the Reformation and the entire ecuмenical movement. Thus he would unite, and not divide.

 [*Rorate: the conference of Catholics in Germany that usually takes place every two years; the 2012 Katholikentag was held in Mannheim over the weekend. - Source: Südwest Presse, in German - tip: German District of the SSPX. / ** This obviously makes no sense and Cardinal Becker would have never said such a thing.]

Before all you anti-sedevacantists out there start screaming about how sedevacantism is obviously wrong and hold up Hans Kung as the perfect example of a sedevacantist, allow me to be the first to disavow any connection.

Hans Kung is NOT, may I repeat NOT, a typical example of what it means to be a sedevacantist!

Of course, I still fully expect to hear repeatedly on various forums about how terrible sedevacantists are because the Dimond brothers and Hans Kung are sedevacantists.

Well , First of all Hans Kung isnt Catholic.  

Secondly - a Theological Stance of Sedevacantism for preservation of Catholic Orthodoxy cannot be invoked by those who never held to Catholic orthodoxy in the first place.

Nice try , None the less

But your own ignorance of the Theological position and the intent it was taken under Divine Law to supply faculties in support of the Supreme Law - the salvation of souls is hardly the position Heretic Kung is taking.

Of course, I still fully expect to hear repeatedly on various forums about how terrible sedevacantists are because the Dimond brothers and Hans Kung are sedevacantists.

I say we lock the Dimond brothers and Hans Kung in a monastic cell somewhere and tell them to start arguing about theology, and see who cracks first. Then we take the footage and make a viral Youtube video.

Before all you anti-sedevacantists out there start screaming about how sedevacantism is obviously wrong and hold up Hans Kung as the perfect example of a sedevacantist, allow me to be the first to disavow any connection.

Hans Kung is NOT, may I repeat NOT, a typical example of what it means to be a sedevacantist!

Of course, I still fully expect to hear repeatedly on various forums about how terrible sedevacantists are because the Dimond brothers and Hans Kung are sedevacantists.

The term "sedevacantist" is just saying the papal seat is vacant or impeded somehow. I think Hans Kung would say Benedict XVI can't be the pope because he has separated himself from modernist Rome, not the Catholic Faith. The real difference is that Kung would only consider B16 as a schismatic and never a heretic, simply because modernists can't believe anybody would be a heretic. Heresy has to do with dogma, which schism deals with obedience. Modernists don't believe there are any dogmas other than obedience.

rorate caeli is a bad joke.

Han Kueng, no matter what he says or does, remains a cleric in good standing with the Vatican II church.

His apostate bona fides are solid.

 :roll-laugh1:  :applause:      

The term "sedevacantist" is just saying the papal seat is vacant or impeded somehow.  

This is actually 100% correct.  The problem is that sedevacantists can't get most people to understand that.  We can talke and write until we're blue in the face ( :rolleyes:) and people still claim all manner of other doctrines upon us that they heard once that sedevacantists hold.

Hans Kung? Good that modernist needs to go.

I think he's a little more than an ordinary Modernist, if his Wiki C.V. is correct.

Well he was a radical reformer and modernist theologian but a bad influence on the Church nonetheless.