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Group for Reflection Among Catholics (GREC):
« on: February 22, 2013, 08:20:20 PM »
This thread intends to compile articles, docuмents, and commentary pertaining to the French-based "Group for Reflection Among Catholics (GREC)," an influential faction and alliance of SSPX and Conciliar clergy and laymen which has been exerting a powerful influence on Menzingen since its formation in 1997.

The GREC has as its stated purpose to bring about a "reconciliation" between the SSPX and Rome.

The purpose of the thread, therefore, is to examine the degree to which the aims of GREC have caused the new orientation in Menzingen, which has thrown aside Archbishop Lefebvre's post-1988 principle that there be no practical accord before the doctrinal issues are settled: A sure and certain roadblock to GREC's coveted "reconciliation."

As Cardinal Canazares recently stated, "We must take a new approach" (I.e., one designed to bypass the doctrinal impasse....by bypassing doctrine altogether).  

That Bishop Fellay agrees is implicit in his permitting the Cardinal to address his idea to all SSPX priests.

Interestingly enough, this is the roadmap laid out by GREC, and if one therefore wishes to understand the morphing of the SSPX (especially accelerated since February 2009), the causes, players, methods, and end-game, the starting point is understanding GREC.

PS: Much like the pinned "Collection of Resistance Writings," this thread is intended to be a reference and resource for the dissemination and accessing of articles designed to expose The methods and aims of the GREC.  Please feel free to post any such materials, but refrain from mere commentary.

Pax tecuм,

Seraphim

Group for Reflection Among Catholics (GREC):
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2013, 08:26:56 PM »
The following book review is an English language translation of the original French review.
It was copied/pasted from The Recusant:



Book Review of
"Towards a Necessary Reconciliation"
by Fr.Michel Lelong
http://www.editions-nel.com/rayons/decouvrir.shtml  

Reviewed by 'Gentiloup'
Original French here:  
http://lefebvristes.forum-box.com/t972-Petite-recension-de-la-necessaire-conciliation-promue-par-le-GREC.htm

EDITOR'S NOTE:
In the print Edition of the January Recusant (Issue 3), we mistakenly printed the translation by 'Ancien Regime'. Below we offer a different version, the one which should have been printed. We wish to thank and credit 'Ancien Regime' for the translation which we printed, and apologise to our readers for having been somewhat rushed before Christmas to get Issue 3 out in time.

I just finished reading the book by Fr. Michel Lelong, entitled: Towards the Necessary Reconciliation  -  Pour la nécessaire réconciliation.

It is a small work of 159 pages, not exciting but quickly read. It is a history of GREC, “Groupe de Réflexion Entre Catholiques”.

This booklet summarizes the work accomplished by GREC. It is a glowing report by the author who helped to found GREC. The goal was to open up SSPX to reconcile with Conciliar Rome. This little book unintentionally clarifies the downward slide of the SSPX and why the attempted ralliement with Conciliar Rome was able to corrupt the very spirit at the heart of SSPX.

The GREC “think tank” was founded in 1997 with the goal to integrate SSPX with Modernist Rome and to convince it to accept the Second Vatican Council.

The founders were Mr. and Mrs. Gilbert Pérol and Fr. Michel Lelong, author of the book and fervent defender of inter-religious dialogue and the Council. Mr Pérol had been the Ambassador of France to Rome.

GREC’s goal is not ambiguous. It is clearly defined throughout the book by different protagonists as being “Interpreting Vatican II in the light of Tradition,” according to the formula John-Paul II gave to Archbishop Lefebvre in 1978.

Fr. Michel Lelong is convinced of the benefits of the Council, especially of Nostra Aetate, and is a specialist in dialogue with Muslims.

The Ambassador’s idea was to enter into dialogue with the traditional Catholics of SSPX in the same way that he had dialogued with other religions and from which, to his regret, the SSPX had been excluded.

DICI editor Fr. Alain Lorans, one of the four founders of GREC, was the spokesman for the SSPX District of France. He immediately obtained permission from Bishop Fellay to participate in the dialogue “for a necessary reconciliation.” He was very attentive in keeping Bishop Fellay up-to-date with the progress of the dialogue.

The 'Charter' of the group was defined by Mr. Pérol shortly before his death: it is “to interpret Vatican II in light of Tradition,” which Benedict XVI himself calls the Hermeneutic of Continuity, in opposition to the Hermeneutic of Rupture as Archbishop Lefebvre ruefully observed at the end of his long quest to reach a tentative agreement with the Conciliar Church. In the end, Archbishop Lefebvre could see that an agreement was impossible, hence the consecrations of the four bishops in 1988.

GREC commenced its activities with small committees formed around Mrs. Pérol and Fr. Michel Lelong, with Fr. Emmanuel le Chalard of SSPX “who did not cease to provide discreet support and pay special attention to GREC.”

Quote, Page 24:
Two other priests contributed decisively to the creation and life of our Catholic think tank. One of them who has since returned to God was the Dominican, Fr. Olivier de La Brosse, the other, Fr. Lorans of the SSPX. I got to know them in 1997 during a dinner to which we had been invited by Mrs. Pérol. On that day GREC was born.

Details: This meeting took place in Rome at Madame Pérol’s home.
• Fr. Olivier de La Brosse, who died in 2009, was the spokesman for the Bishops' Conference of France.
• Fr. Lorans was the spokesman for the SSPX District of France.He had obtained permission from Bishop Fellay to dialogue for a "necessary reconciliation" with the group.

Thus we have the four founders of GREC:

• Mrs. Pérol
• Fr. Michel Lelong
• Fr. Lorans
• Fr. de la Brosse

In the months that followed, the protagonists remained quietly within their respective communities.

Soon after, conferences would be organized, but without fanfare, for it was necessary that this should remain confidential.

Quote, Page 27:
“When we meet in friendship, I often think of Gilbert Pérol who, while actively participating in Christian-Muslim dialogue, had the idea of this dialogue between Catholics.”

The apostolic nuncios supported this group, along with various other personalities of the Conciliar Church who regularly informed the Pope of the progress of the dialogue.

The FSSP Superior of France, Fr. Ribeton, joined the group and, a little later, so did the head of The Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest.

To shorten this review, you should know that the initiative for the "lifting of the excommunications" of the four bishops of the SSPX can be traced back to GREC who had already requested it during the 2000 Jubilee year! Fr. Lelong reveals this explicitly in the book and provides many quotations from exchanges of letters amongst the group, the Roman authorities, and the Superior General of SSPX.

When we are told that the lifting of the excommunications was one of the points of the Society’s road map, that is not the whole truth as the road map actually initiated with GREC. The term returning to  “full communion” is ceaselessly used.

Quote, Page 42:
As far as I'm concerned, having been a priest for fifty years and having devoted my ministry to the relationship between the Church and the Muslims, I am deeply attached to the teachings of Vatican II and I am trying to raise awareness and understanding of those among our fellow Catholics who follow Archbishop Lefebvre and his successors.

Thus, the message is clear - Bishop Fellay did not go to play as a naïve schoolboy, suddenly discovering in 2012 through a letter from the Pope the expectation of SSPX to recognize Vatican II. That had been clear from the beginning of the collaboration with GREC.

On January 6, 2004, Fr. de la Brosse sent a letter to Cardinal Castrillon Hoyos of Ecclesia Dei to give an account of the “Tradition and Modernity” colloquium organized by GREC on November 22nd, 2003, in Paris:

Quote, Pages 45-46:
At our request, Bishop Philippe Breton was appointed by Bishop Ricard, President of CEF [French Bishops Conference], as the “affiliated bishop” of the group, to attend the meetings and provide the opening prayer, with Fr. Lorans of the SSPX presiding over the final prayer. . . .

Thus the very purpose of the colloquium was established: French Catholics of various and even opposite sensitivities freely agreed to engage in a dialogue that did not prejudice total reconciliation in any way—a field reserved to competent superiors—but this opens the possibility, when the times comes, that the dialogue caucus will find before them partners capable of understanding and mutual respect. . . .

The number of participants was 40 people, all of whom were invited individually by group members. . . .
 
Very great discretion was observed at the express request of Bishop Ricard, which corresponded to our intentions. No professional journalists were present in the room. No information or comments were leaked during the days that followed, neither in the Catholic nor the secular press.

Quote, Pages 45-46:
Thus, thanks to support from the Apostolic Nuncio and also to the efforts of Frs. La Brosse and Barthe, Cardinal Ratzinger, then prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith, was kept informed of our activities. The election of Benedict XVI was welcomed . . . with great hope. . . . We know, indeed, how during the first months of his pontificate the new Pope met with Bishop Fellay and made statements and decisions that clearly manifested his desire to re-establish unity in the Church through a Hermeneutic of Continuity and not of rupture with regards to the teachings of Vatican II.

After the Motu Proprio of 2007, the organizers of GREC sent a new letter to the Pope, asking him again to lift the excommunications.

From page 55 follows a history of GREC’s activities and of the key figures of different sides who were to be involved in this process.

Following the Pope’s meeting with Bishop Fellay in 2005, GREC expanded the SSPX side to include among others: a very active Fr. Célier, and laymen Jacques-Régis du Cray and Marie-Alix Doutrebente.

It was then that the colloquia revealed the “doctrinal and spiritual convergence” between the two parties.

Quote, Page 69:
On June 10, 2010,  following “a particularly unfair media campaign,” a GREC meeting was held around “Fr. Matthew Rouge, Rector of St. Clotilde Basilica in Paris . . . and Fr. Lorans, in charge of SSPX communications.” with the purpose of declaring its support of the Pope.

That evening, thanks to the two speaker's presentation and the discussion that followed, we sensed how much a reconciliation between Catholics around Pope Benedict XVI was expected and hoped for.

GREC devoted its meetings to Vatican II, Archbishop Lefebvre, and the Motu Proprio Summorum Pontificuм, with the participation of historians and theologians providing different points of view, so as to make its contribution during the 2010-2011 academic year.

Quote, Page 85:
At the time of this writing, one can hope that these meetings will lead to an agreement without delay. But the SSPX must understand that if it has much to offer to Rome, it also has much to receive from it. It must therefore stop rejecting Vatican II outright and accept the guiding principles in interpreting them as proposed by the Holy Father today.

The stories of different GREC actors follow, including those for SSPX of Fr. Lorans, Marie-Alix Doutrebente and Jacques-Régis du Cray.

A very important place is given to Fr. Paul Aulagnier, who began when he was District Superior of France, before the foundation of GREC, to open a dialogue in 1992 with Conciliarists, notably with Dom de Lesquen, Abbot of Notre Dame de Randol. He continued this role later after becoming a member of the IBP  - Institute de Bon Pasteur / Good Shepherd Institute. Still very active in support of ralliement, he has already rejoined and has obtained a parish in the Conciliar structure.

Quote, Fr. Aulagnier Page 104
Beginning in 1992, as District Superior of SSPX in France, I was happy to initiate new contacts with recognized ecclesiastical authorities.

One day, when passing by Randol . . . Abbot Dom de Lesquen was talking to a young man in the forecourt of the monastery. Knowing the role he had played with Dom Gérard during his rapprochement with Rome on July 10, 1988, I approached him and spoke with him . . . about the rapprochement with Rome, of a normalization of the SSPX with Rome . .

To understand the process of ralliement, it suffices to know the secretive work of the group whose members admit to it.

A reminder: this book was published in December 2011.

It is very important to be familiar with this book so as to know what is of importance in the future not to do: no doctrinal discussions at any level so long as Rome has not converted.

That was the point made by Archbishop Lefebvre and which always prevailed until the narrowly missed ralliement of June 2012:

“No practical agreement without a doctrinal agreement.”

Inferiors do not form the superiors, and yet, after a practical agreement, the SSPX would find itself under the authority of a Modernist Pope and Conciliar Congregations.

The truth does not support the least compromise with error, and yet the process initiated by GREC is nothing other than a search for compromise.

 In conclusion, here is what Fr. David Hewko has to say:

Quote, Fr. Hewko in his Open Letter to His Excellency Bishop Fellay, Society Priests, Religious and Faithful, dated November 8, 2012:
Fr. Ludovic Barrielle (so highly revered by the Archbishop) commented in 1982:

"I am writing this to serve as a lesson for everyone. The day that the SSPX abandons the spirit and rules of its Founder, it will be lost. Furthermore, all our brothers who, in the future, allow themselves to judge and condemn the Founder and his principles, will show no hesitation in eventually taking away from the Society the traditional teaching of the Church and the Mass instituted by Our Lord."


Group for Reflection Among Catholics (GREC):
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2013, 08:36:24 PM »
Devils.

Group for Reflection Among Catholics (GREC):
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2013, 08:38:45 PM »
  Official SSPX communique from 2009 regarding GREC from the French District Website (rough translation to follow in next post):


 Communiqué du Groupe de Réflexion Entre Catholiques (GREC)

Retour aux docuмents officiels du District de France
Retour au dossier sur les réactions
Retour au dossier complet "Retrait des excommunications de 1988"

Sauf avis contraire, les articles ou conférences qui n'émanent pas des
membres de la FSSPX ne peuvent être considérés comme reflétant
la position officielle de la Fraternité Saint-Pie X



Communiqué du Groupe de Réflexions Entre Catholiques (GREC)
Paris le 29 janvier 2009

 

Le Groupe de Réflexions Entre Catholiques (GREC) rend grâce pour la levée de l’excommunication des quatre évêques de la Fraternité Sacerdotale Saint-Pie-X, généreusement décidée par le Saint-Père et promulguée le 24 janvier 2009.
Il se réjouit de tout cœur pour la Fraternité Sacerdotale Saint-Pie-X. Mais il se réjouit surtout pour l’Église, laquelle a besoin plus que jamais, comme l’a dit le pape Benoît XVI à Lourdes, de tous ses enfants dans le champ de l’apostolat.

Cette mesure sert le renforcement de l’unité interne et plus encore de la charité.

Cette décision cause une joie d’autant plus grande au GREC que sa vocation, depuis l’origine, a précisément été de créer un espace de rencontres et de discussions entre catholiques, tout spécialement pour que soit reconnue aux prêtres et aux fidèles de l’œuvre de Mgr Lefebvre, leur place au sein l’Église.

Persuadé que le Saint-Père continuera à favoriser la tenue de colloques qui donneraient sa place à une « herméneutique de continuité » très fortement traditionnelle, le GREC veut poursuivre les efforts qu’il a inlassablement déployés en ce sens.
Il tient à assurer la Conférence épiscopale de France de son soutien pour que soit entendu par tous l’appel du Saint Père à la réconciliation.

Paris, le 29 janvier 2009

 

 

 

 



Group for Reflection Among Catholics (GREC):
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2013, 09:34:48 PM »

Translation of GREC Communique Posted on French District Website
Prima Facie Evidence of an Alignment of Aims Between GREC and Menzingen

In other words, as you will read below, the SSPX now supports the "hermeneutics of continuity."
No wonder Bishop Tissier's book destroying that heretical theory was denied publication!


Paris January 29, 2009

The Group for Reflection Among Catholics gives thanks for the lifting of the excommunication of the four bishops of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Pius X, generously decided by the Holy Father and proclaimed January 24, 2009.

It rejoices with all its heart for the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Pius X. But rejoices especially for the Church, which needs more than ever, as stated by Pope Benedict XVI in Lourdes, for all her children in the field of the apostolate.

This measure strengthens internal unity and stronger charity.

This decision causes an even greater joy in his vocation.  GREC from the outset, was precisely created to be a space for meetings and discussions among Catholics, especially to secure recognition of the priests and faithful of the work of Archbishop Lefebvre, their place within the Church.

Believing that the Holy Father will continue to promote the holding of seminars that would place a "hermeneutics of continuity" strongly traditional, the GREC will continue the efforts he has tirelessly made in this direction.

He assured the Episcopal Conference of France's support to be heard by all the Holy Father's call to reconciliation.

Paris, January 29, 2009